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Workin' on the rules If the board of directors think it would make more sense to do this at the banquet, that's fine, too. I will ask my intern, tomorrow, what LMAO means, I don't know all of the brutish jargon.

More about the duel ...and if you lose, you have to give us your good faith estimate of the value of that Compact. Can you handle that?

Okay, Jeff All right Jeff. That did it. I'm calling you out. Here in front of two guys with balls and a bunch of sandbaggers. You are hereby challenged to a duel. Arm wrestling* in my conference room or reception area on Saturday, September 14, at 4:15 p.m. I'll provide the gloves...

Ian, I missed something.. Everyone, back up to post 16722. Ian, in fact, was the first to give us a no obfuscation good faith opinion of the value, $60. I missed it and went on chiding him. My bad. Ian, you and Pete have balls. There we go. The estimates of the fairly complete Compact C-4 are...

Oh, Ian Still at it but still won't give us your appraisal. Seriously, though, I apologize for all those things I said (yeah, right). Really, Ian, I didn't know you didn't have a secretary. You could have said something.

John Doe Hey, Kyle, no, no, no. You can't co-opt John Doe. Make up your own name. Messeur Doe is not selling his vac. He was just interested in what the guys thought it was worth before he throws away the attachments and cuts it into an open wheel racer. This isn't some crass auction site.

True that. I got mine and really like it. The server (you know, the waitress) at Joe's Cafe was looking over my shoulder when I was reading. Political correctness prevented me from looking over her shoulder. Anyway, a lotta of hard work. Thanks guys. I was especially interested in the...

LOL No sweat, Kyle, we were talking about John Doe and his C-4.

Heartfelt Pete, my praise for your willingness to break from these obfuscators is, in deed, heartfelt*, and sincere. Really. I know a fraction of what these guys know and I am willing to guess at a value, or a range, and I might be wrong. So what. I respect you. *Disclaimer only about the...

This is not about Kyle Ian, this is not about Kyle. Kyle's pig is being used as an example. I don't care about the club's off thread emails and phones calls and all that other crap that goes on behind the scenes. Just take the thread at face value and pretend Kyle is John Doe. Okay? John Doe...

Kyle, we're not bidding. Kyle, Pete isn't bidding on your pig, he is expressing a friendly opinion of its value. He thinks its worth $30 to $50. He isn't offering to buy the thing.

Yes, yes, yes. Pete, you and I are the only guys on this site with balls. You did it. You set an example. And you know what. Your value, stated as you have, is the "definitive last word" on the value of that unit unless there might be someone else out there with gumption. Ian, you quittin'?

Pete, you still don't get it. Your presumptive comment: "what you want someone to say, that it's worth $150 , $100, $80 which it probably isn't." I don't want people to say what it isn't - duh - I want them to say what it is. But, love ya, man, let's work with this (I feel like a dentist). If...

No, no, no, no. Now you see why my people crossed the pond, my man, you are just like the old farts. Hedging and obfuscation. Geez, Ian, you are too young to give up your spirit, your independence, your verve (can we say verve on this site?). Ian, you can show them the way. You know, Pete...

dizamn Hey, Clockwork Orange is back! Ian, what's your number? Use the form: "I Ian the Brit think the fair market value of Kyle's Compact, based on his description and the pic, is worth between __________ and _____________. Disclaimer: This "educated guess" is based on my limited experience...

Massage My dad went to get a massage. I like that. I might use that. Oops, too late. Anyway, "Value Back Up" is a litte premature. A lot of the guys are from Missouri (remember all that stink awhile back)and need to see it. But, because of the handy-dandy hedge in my disclaimer language there...

Kyle's okay Hey, Kyle may be young, but he has a lot of experience in this specialty. My "form"/format contains the hedge "based on his description". Kyle's doin' okay with what he is working with. What's your number Brett?

Another dodger fan. ~F, you didn't give us your number.

Sandbaggin' Pete, Jeff - you are still sandbagging. The question on the floor is, based on your experience, what is your educated guess as to the value of the machine? The question was not what you would offer for it. Obviously, if you don't like Compacts, or if you have a policy of not paying...

Er, uh, the pictures ...and, did you look at the calendar? It is tomorrow, yet again. ....and no pics of Kyle's pig. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Surely Leno could loan him a camera.