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Oh well... At least I'm not willing to fall for the misinformations. @Vacuum Facts we thought these was obvious already. Why can't bedroom YouTube testers get things straight?

@Vacuum Facts, I did all this to help you debunk misinformations. Why haven't anybody properly talking about the V16 Piston other than us? Why? It doesn't just sting at this point, it's a torture! No offense, though... @cheesewonton. CFM isn't enough. We needs suction lift.

Sad. If only you became more popular... Besides, feel free to reveal the mod needed for the (launch iteration of the) V16 Piston, maybe as part of your myth-busting anthology leading to your full review which could still comes later. It's a win-win scenario: people will know the true problems...

TL;DR do not abuse or neglect. @Vacuum Facts has a point about all the copycats that doesn't have true R&D. Yes, you can treat the newer cordless as a complementary companion to your usual corded mains, but the technology marches on, and now both Dyson's now-long line of machines and the...

@Vacuum Facts, reveal the necessary mod for V16 first, maybe as part of your myth-busting anthology leading up to the full review. That review can still wait for later, most likely until next year (2026). Also, why didn't many reviewers bring themselves to compare their tests to industry...

The real problem only benefits battery life, @Vacuum Facts. (Please don't make me repeat what I just said again 😥)

In addition, also watch the reviews @Vacuum Facts, Vacuum Wars, RTINGS and such made. They are objective in their own way (Vacuum Facts himself considering himself gold standard; Vacuum Wars no longer doing sponsored review; RTINGS' extensive datas), and look out for important stuffs. Both specs...

Oh my god. What a cheesy move from you. Anyways, the point is that there's more R&D effort to make the bags competitive with the bagless stuffs, and the former still has running cost and still wasteful (bagless only empty contents, whereas you have to throw the entire bag of the bagged and...

Okay, and... I doubt these alone will direct measure cleaning performance on floors. I only agree with you about the HEPA. Also it's 0.3 micron, not 3 microns. I meant R&D effort, not cost.

I meant the R&D needed to make the bags competitive, not just improve the basic design. Also, you didn't answer me about Suction Work Rate vs. Airwatts.

If you're looking for lab-grade tests, then @Vacuum Facts have got you covered. Also, asking your dad won't hurt.

@Vacuum Facts, the full review can still wait for later, but would you reveal us the mod that even this thread is asking for, as part of your myth-busting anthology leading to the review itself? This way, users would be aware of what's really wrong with V16, and that should hopefully combat any...

I meant many airwatts, which is different from Suction Work Rate. This is the most reasonable anti-Dyson schtick I've ever heard in vacuumland.org to date.

Both, again, are a lot of effort to keep the bags competitive. Also, which one is better: 600W s.w.r. or 240AW?

This is not supportive, @Hatsuwr and @royalfan103. This is neither supportive nor a challenge. You're just mocking me for even agreeing with @Vacuum Facts in the first place. He is (usually) right and therefore I have every right to cite him. My own thoughts merely matches his, not copying...

Well, the bags still (easily) clog(s).

A dupe is still a dupe though, and SEBO didn't have enough true R&D to pull it off properly. The Balance is shaping up to be a FLOP. CAPITAL FLOP, no excuses.

Yep. https://vacuumland.org/threads/pick-your-poison-main-equivalency.46775/

With the bagless designs, only contents are dumped, not also the entire bag in answer. Those bags are wasteful precisely because they physical exists (and have recurring running cost). But bags still clogs, and still easier than cyclones. Cyclones clog almost entirely due to user error, whether...

It only benefit battery life, @Vacuum Facts