Electrolux vacuums to become extinct?

[cheesewonton]

Where are you getting this information that the Electrolux Group was molding Electrolux USA body parts in the Eureka plant in Juarez?

Somehow you are misunderstanding my communications was your replies indicate time and again, so I will try to explain more clearly:

1. Attached is a screenshot of Lux International's timeline indicating its independence from AB Electrolux occurred in 1998.

2. I have no reason to doubt that Trent saw the ASSEMBLY of the Aerus tanks at Bristol recently. However, online information suggests that the MAKING of the parts is outsourced as it was when AB Electrolux/Eureka took over production in 2003 after the Bristol operations were discontinued. That means pouring the plastic into molds and actually MAKING the tank parts.

3. AB Electrolux did/does not own the rights of the Lux brand and therefore could not give Aerus the rights to it - Lux International did/does. At one point I read on Lux International's webpage that Aerus was its North American subsidiary; which makes a very good case of why Aerus cleaners have been also labeled with 'Lux'.

The bottom line is that ActivePure Technologies does not operate in the same way as Electrolux Corporation. It's much more diverse and focused on purification and heating products more than surface care appliances. All online indications are that the PRODUCTION of Aerus Lux Classic and Aerus Lux Legacy is outsourced; including Trent's viewing only the ASSEMBLY of them.

From another thread in Contemporary Paul posted this:

 

[cheesewonton]

I would be curious where your information regarding Aerus body parts being molded in an Electrolux Group ( former Eureka ) plant in Juarez Mexico is coming from. Electrolux Group sold Eureka to the Midea Group in 2018 and sold Sanitaire to Bissell in 2019 so they no longer own that old Eureka factory in Juarez. Electrolux opened a new factory in Juarez to make refrigerators. I am not even sure Bissell operates that old Eureka plant in Juarez because you see many Sanitaire products formerly made in Mexico are now made in Vietnam.
My post above shows that the Electrolux Group of Sweden has no affiliation with Electrolux LLC, now known as Aerus LLC. There seems to be a lot of wild stories floating absent good documentation.

 

[cheesewonton]

So I have been corresponding today with a friend in Germany who was a long time Lux distributor and now does a nice business selling Lux parts and supplies on the German eBay site. You will see him selling there as "Michi". In the process of chasing down some of the companies he mentioned like AllClean of Leipzig Germany I found this website showing a Lux branded Sebo Felix ! They call it the Lux Handyclean. They also sell a cordless direct air upright called the Easymove that looks like a Simplicity Freedom / Riccar Supralite based machine.

https://allclean.de/produkt-kategorie/saugen-staubsauger-wischsauger/

The site also shows the S115 Intelligence. Confusion reigns : /

 

[vacerator]

I found some youtube videos and Flickr photos of AB Electrolux cylinder models preceding the Oxygen and Ultra one series such as the Excellio Z 5405, 5235, also sold as the Eureka Excalibur (not the first series by Volta) the Ingenio, and Microlite, Slimline, and Dolphin.

 

[cheesewonton]

I found some youtube videos and Flickr photos of AB Electrolux cylinder models preceding the Oxygen and Ultra one series such as the Excellio Z 5405, 5235, also sold as the Eureka Excalibur (not the first series by Volta) the Ingenio, and Microlite, Slimline, and Dolphin.

Oh yes! In fact, weird as this probably sounds, those Swedish and Hungarian made Electrolux Group vacuums sold here as Eureka and Sanitaire models are a major part of my collection. A clean Excellio based Eureka Europa ( S6997 I think is the model ? ) is way up there on my Holy Grail list. I have most of the other Electrolux Group models including the Volta based Excalibur ( such a strange machine ) and the Z457 based Sanitaire S490A. The latter is sitting disassembled however as the wiring disconnected itself as I was taking it apart ( several of the spades crimped to the wires fractured and popped off the main board ) and now I don't know what wire goes where. I have the S6982/84 based on the Volta Gemini and the green GE branded thing sold by Walmart, and also sold as the Eureka HP that is based on the Volta Elypse. I also have the Sanitaire S6951 and S6952 based on the AEG P3 System Pro. So yeah I am definitely weird for the Electrolux Group sourced Eurekas and Sanitaires.

 

[paul]

Where are you getting this information that the Electrolux Group was molding Electrolux USA body parts in the Eureka plant in Juarez?

From another thread in Contemporary Paul posted this:

View attachment 169189

Hmmm,

Did I mention that Aerus plastic injection was done in the Juarez plant? Those are your words or maybe one of your friend's. I have no idea what specific operations were done at the Eureka plants. I do know that the Bristol MANUFACTURING was shut down in 2003 according to the news release I posted, and that AB Electrolux took over production. I first learned of this from a local vacuum cleaner salesman who used the term "Eureka-Luxes" to describe the Aerus Lux vacuums; I even clarified as I had initially thought the term was solely used for Electrolux-branded vacs made at the Eureka plants. I have found no news releases that ActivePure took back the MANUFACTURING OF PARTS of its Lux Classic and Lux Legacy tank-type vacuum cleaners at Bristol when AB Electrolux sold Eureka to Midea in 2016; and nothing on its website makes the claim. Its even possible that the vacuum cleaner ASSEMBLY was never shut down there.

The 1999 attachment that you copied from my post, is when the former company Electrolux LLC was still in business and indeed was unaffiliated with AB Electrolux. That changed when AB Electrolux supplied Aerus tank vacuums with VM3 motors beginning in 2002 and when it took over PARTS MANUFACTURING circa 2003.

Electrolux LLC focused on surface care powered appliances and made its own products from start to finish. "ActivePure Technology owned and DISTRIBUTED by AP Sciences Group LLC" (see attachment), is more diversified and likely only assembles and distributes most, if not all, its air, laundry, and surface care products.

https://activepure.com/about-us/

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Btw, it would seem, too, that the Richter S115's manufacturing is outsourced due to the fact that it is devoid of the Lux brand and sold by some former Lux International subsidiaries.

 

[cheesewonton]

Sorry but that new release doesn't align with what people who have been in the Bristol plant have told me. They were making Tristars there until late 2022. They ceased production when they used up the last of the magnalite castings from 2019.

I just spoke to my friend in Tennessee. I literally just set the phone down. He was in the Aerus factory in Bristol last August. They were assembling Legacy and Classic models in house in Bristol. The plastic body parts are molded at another site in West Virginia. The hoses are made in South Carolina ( Flexible Technologies ). Aerus manufactures their attachments in house in Bristol. The suction motors, Sidekicks and power nozzles come from China. My friend saw all of this with his own eyes. The Guardian Platinums come in a crate from Europe and are placed in a box with their US made wands, attachments, hose and Chinese power nozzle and Sidekick, sealed and made ready to ship.

 

[paul]

Sorry but that new release doesn't align with what people who have been in the Bristol plant have told me. They were making Tristars there until late 2022. They ceased production when they used up the last of the magnalite castings from 2019.

I just spoke to my friend in Tennessee. I literally just set the phone down. He was in the Aerus factory in Bristol last August. They were assembling Legacy and Classic models in house in Bristol. The plastic body parts are molded at another site in West Virginia. The hoses are made in South Carolina ( Flexible Technologies ). Aerus manufactures their attachments in house in Bristol. The suction motors, Sidekicks and power nozzles come from China. My friend saw all of this with his own eyes. The Guardian Platinums come in a crate from Europe and are placed in a box with their US made wands, attachments, hose and Chinese power nozzle and Sidekick, sealed and made ready to ship.

You're funny! Your disagreement with presented facts or premises based on available information can be refuted with your opinions and/or friends' limited knowledge rather than news releases, photos, or company statements.

The 2003 news release of the closing of the Bristol factory accurate, or it would have long ago been retracted or redacted.

Where is your proof that TriStars were manufactured - not just assembled - at Bristol? I found no online verification of this.

The other site in West Virginia where the Lux Classic and Lux Legacy tank parts are manufactured must be an outsourced company's plant; just as I suspected all along. AP Science Group LLC's plants are in Bristol, VA and Greenville, TN; along with a distribution plant in Piney Flats, TN according to its website.

 

[vacerator]

Oh yes! In fact, weird as this probably sounds, those Swedish and Hungarian made Electrolux Group vacuums sold here as Eureka and Sanitaire models are a major part of my collection. A clean Excellio based Eureka Europa ( S6997 I think is the model ? ) is way up there on my Holy Grail list. I have most of the other Electrolux Group models including the Volta based Excalibur ( such a strange machine ) and the Z457 based Sanitaire S490A. The latter is sitting disassembled however as the wiring disconnected itself as I was taking it apart ( several of the spades crimped to the wires fractured and popped off the main board ) and now I don't know what wire goes where. I have the S6982/84 based on the Volta Gemini and the green GE branded thing sold by Walmart, and also sold as the Eureka HP that is based on the Volta Elypse. I also have the Sanitaire S6951 and S6952 based on the AEG P3 System Pro. So yeah I am definitely weird for the Electrolux Group sourced Eurekas and Sanitaires.

I have an Oxygen #6997, blue. I just reassembled the hose handle after it separated and the power head switch fell inside. I couldn't get the screw in the bottom front in. An awl went in at an angle. The suction bleeder is lined up and working so I used electrical tape around the lower front to snug it up. I ordered new snap buttons from Amazon that also fits the Rainbow E2, because that fell off because the plastic around the rivet enlarged from wear and fatigue. New hoses are not available and a replacement handle is $50-$60. Not original style. I bought it new in 2002.

 

[panasonicvac]

Hmmm,

Did I mention that Aerus plastic injection was done in the Juarez plant? Those are your words or maybe one of your friend's. I have no idea what specific operations were done at the Eureka plants. I do know that the Bristol MANUFACTURING was shut down in 2003 according to the news release I posted, and that AB Electrolux took over production. I first learned of this from a local vacuum cleaner salesman who used the term "Eureka-Luxes" to describe the Aerus Lux vacuums; I even clarified as I had initially thought the term was solely used for Electrolux-branded vacs made at the Eureka plants. I have found no news releases that ActivePure took back the MANUFACTURING OF PARTS of its Lux Classic and Lux Legacy tank-type vacuum cleaners at Bristol when AB Electrolux sold Eureka to Midea in 2016; and nothing on its website makes the claim. Its even possible that the vacuum cleaner ASSEMBLY was never shut down there.

The 1999 attachment that you copied from my post, is when the former company Electrolux LLC was still in business and indeed was unaffiliated with AB Electrolux. That changed when AB Electrolux supplied Aerus tank vacuums with VM3 motors beginning in 2002 and when it took over PARTS MANUFACTURING circa 2003.

Electrolux LLC focused on surface care powered appliances and made its own products from start to finish. "ActivePure Technology owned and DISTRIBUTED by AP Sciences Group LLC" (see attachment), is more diversified and likely only assembles and distributes most, if not all, its air, laundry, and surface care products.

https://activepure.com/about-us/

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Btw, it would seem, too, that the Richter S115's manufacturing is outsourced due to the fact that it is devoid of the Lux brand and sold by some former Lux International subsidiaries.

I'm beginning to think this now makes more sense to me. Because it'd explain how Sanitaire came out with their VPS uprights that were sold in both red and black (don't know if they also made a blue one but wouldn't be surprised if so).

 

[cheesewonton]

You're funny! Your disagreement with presented facts or premises based on available information can be refuted with your opinions and/or friends' limited knowledge rather than news releases, photos, or company statements.

The 2003 news release of the closing of the Bristol factory accurate, or it would have long ago been retracted or redacted.

Where is your proof that TriStars were manufactured - not just assembled - at Bristol? I found no online verification of this.

The other site in West Virginia where the Lux Classic and Lux Legacy tank parts are manufactured must be an outsourced company's plant; just as I suspected all along. AP Science Group LLC's plants are in Bristol, VA and Greenville, TN; along with a distribution plant in Piney Flats, TN according to its webs

I e-mailed Aerus to ask about the March 2003 plant closure article in that newspaper article. When / if I hear back I'll report whatever they tell me. I also asked about their current production.

 

[vacerator]

I have an Oxygen #6997, blue. I just reassembled the hose handle after it separated and the power head switch fell inside. I couldn't get the screw in the bottom front in. An awl went in at an angle. The suction bleeder is lined up and working so I used electrical tape around the lower front to snug it up. I ordered new snap buttons from Amazon that also fits the Rainbow E2, because that fell off because the plastic around the rivet enlarged from wear and fatigue. New hoses are not available and a replacement handle is $50-$60. Not original style. I bought it new in 2002.

I found the Eureka Europa model number is #6998. It's the Electrolux Excellio. JC Penney sold the Excalibur canister by Volta I remember in the catalogue. The side bumper rose up on an angle front to back.

 

[cheesewonton]

I found the Eureka Europa model number is #6998. It's the Electrolux Excellio. JC Penney sold the Excalibur canister by Volta I remember in the catalogue. The side bumper rose up on an angle front to back.

I have one of those Excalibur Megas in dark green. Weirdly made but interesting and nice to use vacuum. I can use it with the longer Swedish Electrolux hose from something like my D795 and use it with a Ze3 power nozzle, which is very quiet. Much nicer to use it that way than with that noisy old Eureka power nozzle. In Europe I think you could buy them with an EBK280 power nozzle.

 

[cheesewonton]

Paul, I have not heard back from Aerus yet and wouldn't expect anything till later next week at least but I did find an article that I think came from the Bristol newspaper by a, cough cough, journalist named Lewis Loflin who wrote:

"By 2003 Electrolux was shuttering its Bristol plant claiming a lack of qualified workers. At one time they employed between 500 to 1000 workers depending who one asks. The Swedish owned company was sending the jobs to Mexico and about the same time shipped 2700 jobs from Greenville, Mich. to Mexico as well. But that wasn't the end of this dirty dealing in Tennessee."

I will post a link to the article but I think you can see the guy is confusing American owned Electrolux LLC with Electrolux AB of Sweden. He does that throughout the article while making wild claims about both. I have my doubts about the veracity of what he wrote.

And this does not surprise me. I spent a good long career after my active duty time as a Naval Aviator working in the weapons world on weapons programs you certainly have heard of like Sidewinder, Maverick and Tomahawk, and some most have never heard of like LRASM ( had the pleasure of working with DARPA on that one ) and JAGM with the Army, along with some really interesting aircraft procurement / modification and depot capitalization projects. But often we would read things written by the notionally professional journalists in the defense press in on-line journals like Defense News, Defense Industry Daily, Naval News, Naval Institute Press and the like and end up scratching our heads wondering where the author of the article got their information from because the article was full of nonsense? The articles had us doing stuff that just wasn't happening, or they had claims about contracts that didn't exist. So I am not inclined to believe everything this guys claims until I hear something back from Aerus. It is clear he has the two Electroluxes mixed up.

https://www.sullivan-county.com/z/electrolux.htm

 

[eurekaprince]

The American Electrolux/Aerus company may be fading into history. However, it is important to remember that the original Swedish Electrolux company (which gave birth to the American Electrolux company) is still in operation and sells vacuum cleaners under the Electrolux and AEG brandnames all over the world, including Europe, the UK, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, Brazil and Argentina. Only the North American branches of Electrolux AB have been closed. Here is an example of one of the newest Electrolux canister vacuums available in Europe: https://renowoutlet.com/products/el...9HZiZsntht_3CrTa0dv87Ro-Jo0bDwpCqsx42iDQqjBOj

 

[vacerator]

That looks like an Ultra One! Where is the current Aerus assembly plant? Bristol Virginia? Wasn't it in Texas? I thought all the former posts were referencing it, bit it was Bristol Ct. which was the old original plant, in Old Greenwich.

 

[eluxfan71]

The American Electrolux/Aerus company may be fading into history. However, it is important to remember that the original Swedish Electrolux company (which gave birth to the American Electrolux company) is still in operation and sells vacuum cleaners under the Electrolux and AEG brandnames all over the world, including Europe, the UK, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, Brazil and Argentina. Only the North American branches of Electrolux AB have been closed. Here is an example of one of the newest Electrolux canister vacuums available in Europe: https://renowoutlet.com/products/el...9HZiZsntht_3CrTa0dv87Ro-Jo0bDwpCqsx42iDQqjBOj

The American Electrolux/Aerus company may be fading into history. However, it is important to remember that the original Swedish Electrolux company (which gave birth to the American Electrolux company) is still in operation and sells vacuum cleaners under the Electrolux and AEG brandnames all over the world, including Europe, the UK, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, Brazil and Argentina. Only the North American branches of Electrolux AB have been closed. Here is an example of one of the newest Electrolux canister vacuums available in Europe: https://renowoutlet.com/products/el...9HZiZsntht_3CrTa0dv87Ro-Jo0bDwpCqsx42iDQqjBOj

 

[eluxfan71]

Yes in Europe we still have Electrolux vacuum cleaners (sold as AEG in some countries). There just came out some new models

Models below are still on sale

 

[cheesewonton]

That looks like an Ultra One! Where is the current Aerus assembly plant? Bristol Virginia? Wasn't it in Texas? I thought all the former posts were referencing it, bit it was Bristol Ct. which was the old original plant, in Old Greenwich.

The original factory in Greenwich CT was closed in the late 1980s or maybe very early 1990s. The debate on this thread is over where the Legacy and Classic are made today. Some here maintain, and a crazy newspaper article seems to back the claim that Aerus closed the Bristol VA plant in 2003 and subcontracted vacuum production to Eureka at their plant in Juarez Mexico. Yet I have an Aerus dealer who claims he was in the Bristol VA plant in August 2024 (just a year ago) and saw new Classic and Legacy models being assembled there with plastic parts molded in West Virginia, hoses from South Carolina ( which makes sense as that would be the home of Flexible Technologies ) and attachments produced in the Bristol plant.

Hard to say what the truth is though I have no reason to doubt my friend Trent. I sent an e-mail to Aerus asking about this but have low hopes. A few years ago I called them and asked a question about the Tristars they sell in Japan. I wanted to know what motor they use and about what appears to be a big suppressor inside. I have a half dozen Japan market 100 volt Tristars of different vintages. The people at Aerus told me they didn't make Tristar vacuums for Japan ! 40% of Tristar production went to Japan and they are different than US models but the knuckleheads answering the phones at Aerus didn't even know they were making them for Japan. So I have low expectations for an answer from Aerus.

Considering Electrolux Group of Sweden sold Eureka in 2018 and sold Sanitaire, which was still making a couple of their vacuums in Mexico, in 2019 I suspect that former Eureka plant in Mexico is no more. Newer examples of the Sanitare models I know of that were being made in Mexico like the Mighty Mite now say Made in Vietnam. It could be that Aerus shipped the tooling from Mexico back to Bristol and resumed making them there.

 

[vacerator]

Thank's!

 

[paul]

Paul, I have not heard back from Aerus yet and wouldn't expect anything till later next week at least but I did find an article that I think came from the Bristol newspaper by a, cough cough, journalist named Lewis Loflin who wrote:

"By 2003 Electrolux was shuttering its Bristol plant claiming a lack of qualified workers. At one time they employed between 500 to 1000 workers depending who one asks. The Swedish owned company was sending the jobs to Mexico and about the same time shipped 2700 jobs from Greenville, Mich. to Mexico as well. But that wasn't the end of this dirty dealing in Tennessee."

I will post a link to the article but I think you can see the guy is confusing American owned Electrolux LLC with Electrolux AB of Sweden. He does that throughout the article while making wild claims about both. I have my doubts about the veracity of what he wrote.

And this does not surprise me. I spent a good long career after my active duty time as a Naval Aviator working in the weapons world on weapons programs you certainly have heard of like Sidewinder, Maverick and Tomahawk, and some most have never heard of like LRASM ( had the pleasure of working with DARPA on that one ) and JAGM with the Army, along with some really interesting aircraft procurement / modification and depot capitalization projects. But often we would read things written by the notionally professional journalists in the defense press in on-line journals like Defense News, Defense Industry Daily, Naval News, Naval Institute Press and the like and end up scratching our heads wondering where the author of the article got their information from because the article was full of nonsense? The articles had us doing stuff that just wasn't happening, or they had claims about contracts that didn't exist. So I am not inclined to believe everything this guys claims until I hear something back from Aerus. It is clear he has the two Electroluxes mixed up.

https://www.sullivan-county.com/z/electrolux.htm

First, I thank you for your military service to our country. I'm also grateful for the link to the news article that corroborates the information in the article I posted.

I'm sure you could write a book about all your experiences - sounds fascinating!

How unfortunate that Fake News misrepresented your work. I also see why you compared that to the Electrolux article, which is confusing at best, but at this point seems not to have falsified the facts as much as flip-flopping between Electrolux Group and Electrolux LLC/Aerus Lux.

I do have doubts that Aerus Lux will respond to your email with a direct answer, but maybe it will.

Paul, I have not heard back from Aerus yet and wouldn't expect anything till later next week at least but I did find an article that I think came from the Bristol newspaper by a, cough cough, journalist named Lewis Loflin who wrote:

"By 2003 Electrolux was shuttering its Bristol plant claiming a lack of qualified workers. At one time they employed between 500 to 1000 workers depending who one asks. The Swedish owned company was sending the jobs to Mexico and about the same time shipped 2700 jobs from Greenville, Mich. to Mexico as well. But that wasn't the end of this dirty dealing in Tennessee."

I will post a link to the article but I think you can see the guy is confusing American owned Electrolux LLC with Electrolux AB of Sweden. He does that throughout the article while making wild claims about both. I have my doubts about the veracity of what he wrote.

And this does not surprise me. I spent a good long career after my active duty time as a Naval Aviator working in the weapons world on weapons programs you certainly have heard of like Sidewinder, Maverick and Tomahawk, and some most have never heard of like LRASM ( had the pleasure of working with DARPA on that one ) and JAGM with the Army, along with some really interesting aircraft procurement / modification and depot capitalization projects. But often we would read things written by the notionally professional journalists in the defense press in on-line journals like Defense News, Defense Industry Daily, Naval News, Naval Institute Press and the like and end up scratching our heads wondering where the author of the article got their information from because the article was full of nonsense? The articles had us doing stuff that just wasn't happening, or they had claims about contracts that didn't exist. So I am not inclined to believe everything this guys claims until I hear something back from Aerus. It is clear he has the two Electroluxes mixed up.

https://www.sullivan-county.com/z/electrolux.htm

Paul, I have not heard back from Aerus yet and wouldn't expect anything till later next week at least but I did find an article that I think came from the Bristol newspaper by a, cough cough, journalist named Lewis Loflin who wrote:

"By 2003 Electrolux was shuttering its Bristol plant claiming a lack of qualified workers. At one time they employed between 500 to 1000 workers depending who one asks. The Swedish owned company was sending the jobs to Mexico and about the same time shipped 2700 jobs from Greenville, Mich. to Mexico as well. But that wasn't the end of this dirty dealing in Tennessee."

I will post a link to the article but I think you can see the guy is confusing American owned Electrolux LLC with Electrolux AB of Sweden. He does that throughout the article while making wild claims about both. I have my doubts about the veracity of what he wrote.

And this does not surprise me. I spent a good long career after my active duty time as a Naval Aviator working in the weapons world on weapons programs you certainly have heard of like Sidewinder, Maverick and Tomahawk, and some most have never heard of like LRASM ( had the pleasure of working with DARPA on that one ) and JAGM with the Army, along with some really interesting aircraft procurement / modification and depot capitalization projects. But often we would read things written by the notionally professional journalists in the defense press in on-line journals like Defense News, Defense Industry Daily, Naval News, Naval Institute Press and the like and end up scratching our heads wondering where the author of the article got their information from because the article was full of nonsense? The articles had us doing stuff that just wasn't happening, or they had claims about contracts that didn't exist. So I am not inclined to believe everything this guys claims until I hear something back from Aerus. It is clear he has the two Electroluxes mixed up.

https://www.sullivan-county.com/z/electrolux.htm

Thank you for your military service to our country. How unfortunate that Fake News misrepresented your work. You have had some fascinating experiences that would make for a good book.

I'm also grateful for the Sullivan County news article by Lewis Loflin and understand your reaction to it. Even though it confuses Electrolux Group and Electrolux LLC/Aerus Lux, it at least corroborates the Bristol plant closing.

It seems unlikely that ActivePure Technologies, LLC will respond with a direct answer, but we can hope so.

 

[paul]

My page froze, so I thought I'd lost the first reply, which I never actually sent. Anyway, sorry for the double-post.

The new format does use more memory than the former one.

 

[cheesewonton]

I would not yet want to hang my hat on the Bristol plant closing. I'd like to know a little more. 2003 was about the time Electrolux LLC became Aerus LLC which may have added a level of confusion. The journalist doesn't seem to understand Aerus LLC and Electrolux AB are two completely different companies and we know that at least last August Aerus was assembling two canister vacuum models in Bristol.

Journals like Defense News, Defense Industry Daily, etc, are not just reporting news and events but also are mouthpieces for particular constituencies trying to influence the members of Congress and decision makers in the E-Ring of the Pentagon who make the decisions on what we buy. They have an editorial axe to grind. By the same token Mr. Loflin seems to be editorializing for a particular constituency. Not sure I want to believe everything he wrote quite yet.

I certainly had a fun career. Way better than anything you could show on the Discovery Channel or the Military Channel because I had a front row seat to the discussions that are not in the, um, public realm as we like to say. Plus where I worked we were blowing stuff up all the time O_O Fun place to work.

 

[paul]

I would not yet want to hang my hat on the Bristol plant closing. I'd like to know a little more. 2003 was about the time Electrolux LLC became Aerus LLC which may have added a level of confusion. The journalist doesn't seem to understand Aerus LLC and Electrolux AB are two completely different companies and we know that at least last August Aerus was assembling two canister vacuum models in Bristol.

Journals like Defense News, Defense Industry Daily, etc, are not just reporting news and events but also are mouthpieces for particular constituencies trying to influence the members of Congress and decision makers in the E-Ring of the Pentagon who make the decisions on what we buy. They have an editorial axe to grind. By the same token Mr. Loflin seems to be editorializing for a particular constituency. Not sure I want to believe everything he wrote quite yet.

I certainly had a fun career. Way better than anything you could show on the Discovery Channel or the Military Channel because I had a front row seat to the discussions that are not in the, um, public realm as we like to say. Plus where I worked we were blowing stuff up all the time O_O Fun place to work.

You just may have a place for your hat after all as it’s been a week after you reached out to ActivePure, yet you have had no response. Such a simple question could be answered in one sentence. It's not like you asked for production specifics that would be time-consuming to answer or something that could be considered confidential company information.



That being said, I did some partial research and discovered that the phrase "Manufactured By" was included in the technical data of the Marquise 1521 tank vacuum and PN6A power nozzle but removed from that of the Grand Marquise, pn models 6B & 7B and various later models on spot check. Instead, the company name and North American locations were listed with "Made in USA". I also saw the bag door information of a taupe L-E and an Ambassador 1623 sans "Manufactured By". I think that some of the Floor Pros still retained the wording, but I only briefly looked into that; my research also excluded uprights and commercial canisters. So it may very well be that manufacturing outsourcing, at least in part, began around the time of the banks and upper management leveraged buyout from Sara Lee. What other reason would said text be removed … and never brought back? (see attached photos)



I'll eat some humble pie if you or Trent can prove my theory wrong about Electrolux/ActivePure manufacturing over the last 30 or so years, including an email response to the contrary by ActivePure. I'm not "in it to win it" but just to get the record straight. My contention is that the old Electrolux Corporation/Electrolux Canada Ltd. is history, and its successor operates quite differently even though it has retained some of the old Electrolux products in its product line-up. I therefore agree with those who predict that the discontinuation of those items is around the corner just as Lux International has phased out its conventional cleaners.



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Changing subjects, please ask Trent sometime if he can can do some checking/networking to locate pre-1980s shipping lists that include serial numbers; I’ve been told that the company’s computer database goes back to the early 1980s. Others have posted them on this site for Hoover and Eureka, so production times can be determined for specific models; it would be great if we could do the same with our Electroluxes. Rugsucker mentioned that the lists were periodically sent out to branch managers for stock rotation back in the day. Some of us have asked Corporate about the lists over the years but have been told that they are not in their files; likely being discarded during headquarter relocations. However, I’m thinking that some franchises may have them in obscure places in their buildings or even in salespersons’ records at homes.



Also, I’ve been working on compiling categorical tables of model numbers and corresponding model names along with their main features to post on VL as a reference guide and would like it to be as accurate as possible. I would appreciate it if you would ask Trent if he can easily obtain a list of the models/model names, their production years, and sales lines (e.g. Warehouse Club, Trade Show) from his computer database beginning with the Special Edition and Regency Series lines. The company posters I have seen are either incomplete and/or inaccurate in terms of production years, based on ephemera. If obtaining such a list is not easy for him to produce, then I’d like the model names and production years for the only two model numbers that I’ve been unable to locate online photos of: U155B (Lux Legacy?) and U147D (Lux 3000?); both model numbers are listed on the Aerus store website (see attachment), but it may be that they are rebadged cleaners or that they were just produced for very short periods as promotions. Anyway, my document is nearly ready to post even though many of the production spans are based on online discussions, ephemera and personal inference; although there’s no immediate need for any information Trent could provide.

 

[cheesewonton]

That looks like an Ultra One! Where is the current Aerus assembly plant? Bristol Virginia? Wasn't it in Texas? I thought all the former posts were referencing it, bit it was Bristol Ct. which was the old original plant, in Old Greenwich.

Engles Urso Capital Corp, the parent company of Aerus LLC, is headquartered in Dallas Texas. The production facility was in Bristol VA. Engles Urso Capital Corp bought Interstate Engineering in 1996, two years before they bought Electrolux Inc, in a bankruptcy sale. At some point Engles Urso Capital Corp renamed Interstate Engineering to Tristar LLC and move production of new Tristars from Anaheim CA to Bristol VA.

 

[cheesewonton]

You just may have a place for your hat after all as it’s been a week after you reached out to ActivePure, yet you have had no response. Such a simple question could be answered in one sentence. It's not like you asked for production specifics that would be time-consuming to answer or something that could be considered confidential company information.



That being said, I did some partial research and discovered that the phrase "Manufactured By" was included in the technical data of the Marquise 1521 tank vacuum and PN6A power nozzle but removed from that of the Grand Marquise, pn models 6B & 7B and various later models on spot check. Instead, the company name and North American locations were listed with "Made in USA". I also saw the bag door information of a taupe L-E and an Ambassador 1623 sans "Manufactured By". I think that some of the Floor Pros still retained the wording, but I only briefly looked into that; my research also excluded uprights and commercial canisters. So it may very well be that manufacturing outsourcing, at least in part, began around the time of the banks and upper management leveraged buyout from Sara Lee. What other reason would said text be removed … and never brought back? (see attached photos)



I'll eat some humble pie if you or Trent can prove my theory wrong about Electrolux/ActivePure manufacturing over the last 30 or so years, including an email response to the contrary by ActivePure. I'm not "in it to win it" but just to get the record straight. My contention is that the old Electrolux Corporation/Electrolux Canada Ltd. is history, and its successor operates quite differently even though it has retained some of the old Electrolux products in its product line-up. I therefore agree with those who predict that the discontinuation of those items is around the corner just as Lux International has phased out its conventional cleaners.



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Changing subjects, please ask Trent sometime if he can can do some checking/networking to locate pre-1980s shipping lists that include serial numbers; I’ve been told that the company’s computer database goes back to the early 1980s. Others have posted them on this site for Hoover and Eureka, so production times can be determined for specific models; it would be great if we could do the same with our Electroluxes. Rugsucker mentioned that the lists were periodically sent out to branch managers for stock rotation back in the day. Some of us have asked Corporate about the lists over the years but have been told that they are not in their files; likely being discarded during headquarter relocations. However, I’m thinking that some franchises may have them in obscure places in their buildings or even in salespersons’ records at homes.



Also, I’ve been working on compiling categorical tables of model numbers and corresponding model names along with their main features to post on VL as a reference guide and would like it to be as accurate as possible. I would appreciate it if you would ask Trent if he can easily obtain a list of the models/model names, their production years, and sales lines (e.g. Warehouse Club, Trade Show) from his computer database beginning with the Special Edition and Regency Series lines. The company posters I have seen are either incomplete and/or inaccurate in terms of production years, based on ephemera. If obtaining such a list is not easy for him to produce, then I’d like the model names and production years for the only two model numbers that I’ve been unable to locate online photos of: U155B (Lux Legacy?) and U147D (Lux 3000?); both model numbers are listed on the Aerus store website (see attachment), but it may be that they are rebadged cleaners or that they were just produced for very short periods as promotions. Anyway, my document is nearly ready to post even though many of the production spans are based on online discussions, ephemera and personal inference; although there’s no immediate need for any information Trent could provide.

Now that is interesting.. Marietta Georgia. Was that the Electrolux company headquarters before Engles Urso Capital Corp bought them or was there a manufacturing facility there too?

 

[cheesewonton]

You just may have a place for your hat after all as it’s been a week after you reached out to ActivePure, yet you have had no response. Such a simple question could be answered in one sentence. It's not like you asked for production specifics that would be time-consuming to answer or something that could be considered confidential company information.



That being said, I did some partial research and discovered that the phrase "Manufactured By" was included in the technical data of the Marquise 1521 tank vacuum and PN6A power nozzle but removed from that of the Grand Marquise, pn models 6B & 7B and various later models on spot check. Instead, the company name and North American locations were listed with "Made in USA". I also saw the bag door information of a taupe L-E and an Ambassador 1623 sans "Manufactured By". I think that some of the Floor Pros still retained the wording, but I only briefly looked into that; my research also excluded uprights and commercial canisters. So it may very well be that manufacturing outsourcing, at least in part, began around the time of the banks and upper management leveraged buyout from Sara Lee. What other reason would said text be removed … and never brought back? (see attached photos)



I'll eat some humble pie if you or Trent can prove my theory wrong about Electrolux/ActivePure manufacturing over the last 30 or so years, including an email response to the contrary by ActivePure. I'm not "in it to win it" but just to get the record straight. My contention is that the old Electrolux Corporation/Electrolux Canada Ltd. is history, and its successor operates quite differently even though it has retained some of the old Electrolux products in its product line-up. I therefore agree with those who predict that the discontinuation of those items is around the corner just as Lux International has phased out its conventional cleaners.



__________________



Changing subjects, please ask Trent sometime if he can can do some checking/networking to locate pre-1980s shipping lists that include serial numbers; I’ve been told that the company’s computer database goes back to the early 1980s. Others have posted them on this site for Hoover and Eureka, so production times can be determined for specific models; it would be great if we could do the same with our Electroluxes. Rugsucker mentioned that the lists were periodically sent out to branch managers for stock rotation back in the day. Some of us have asked Corporate about the lists over the years but have been told that they are not in their files; likely being discarded during headquarter relocations. However, I’m thinking that some franchises may have them in obscure places in their buildings or even in salespersons’ records at homes.



Also, I’ve been working on compiling categorical tables of model numbers and corresponding model names along with their main features to post on VL as a reference guide and would like it to be as accurate as possible. I would appreciate it if you would ask Trent if he can easily obtain a list of the models/model names, their production years, and sales lines (e.g. Warehouse Club, Trade Show) from his computer database beginning with the Special Edition and Regency Series lines. The company posters I have seen are either incomplete and/or inaccurate in terms of production years, based on ephemera. If obtaining such a list is not easy for him to produce, then I’d like the model names and production years for the only two model numbers that I’ve been unable to locate online photos of: U155B (Lux Legacy?) and U147D (Lux 3000?); both model numbers are listed on the Aerus store website (see attachment), but it may be that they are rebadged cleaners or that they were just produced for very short periods as promotions. Anyway, my document is nearly ready to post even though many of the production spans are based on online discussions, ephemera and personal inference; although there’s no immediate need for any information Trent could pro

Here is a new German Lux International website that shows the S115 Intelligence. It hasn't gone away at all.

https://allclean.de/produkt-kategorie/saugen-staubsauger-wischsauger/

Also dig they sell a version of the Riccar Supralite they call the Easymove and a Lux branded Sebo Felix ( ! ) they call the Handyclean.

https://pricee.com/eureka-forbes-euroclean-xtreme-dry-vacuum-cleaner-price-in-india-54017

 

[paul]

Here is a new German Lux International website that shows the S115 Intelligence. It hasn't gone away at all.

https://allclean.de/produkt-kategorie/saugen-staubsauger-wischsauger/

Also dig they sell a version of the Riccar Supralite they call the Easymove and a Lux branded Sebo Felix ( ! ) they call the Handyclean.

https://pricee.com/eureka-forbes-euroclean-xtreme-dry-vacuum-cleaner-price-in-india-54017

You missed my earlier post about the Richter S115.

From AI: "Pure Life (Purelifehome) is a separate company that acquired former subsidiaries of Lux International AG in Poland, Austria, Hungary, and Germany at the end of 2023.

" ... Pure Life Group will market and sell its products under the new Richter brand and still offer accessories and parts for existing Lux products."

I do speculate whether Purelife is actually manufacturing the S115 or if it's just selling off the remaining stock; again, I read nothing in the translated description about where it was manufactured. I would hope that if manufacturing is still taking place, even by outsourcing, that quality is, as well.

 

[paul]

Here is a new German Lux International website that shows the S115 Intelligence. It hasn't gone away at all.

https://allclean.de/produkt-kategorie/saugen-staubsauger-wischsauger/

Also dig they sell a version of the Riccar Supralite they call the Easymove and a Lux branded Sebo Felix ( ! ) they call the Handyclean.

https://pricee.com/eureka-forbes-euroclean-xtreme-dry-vacuum-cleaner-price-in-india-54017

You missed my earlier post about the Richter S115.

I speculate whether Lux Germany or Purelife is actually manufacturing the S115 or is selling the remaining stock; considering the competition and that the 15-year-old design; again, I read nothing in the translated description about where it was manufactured; incidentally, "Lux" is also omitted from the name of the cleaner. I would hope that if manufacturing is, in fact, still taking place, even if by outsourcing, that quality is, as well.

Now that is interesting.. Marietta Georgia. Was that the Electrolux company headquarters before Engles Urso Capital Corp bought them or was there a manufacturing facility there too?

If memory serves, the corporate offices had been in Stamford, CT until the senior executive/banks leveraged buyout of Sara Lee Corporation in late 1987 when they were moved to Marietta. Engles Urso Capital relocated them to Dallas around 1998 when it bought Electrolux Corporation and changed the designation to Electrolux LLC. I have no knowledge of there ever being an Electrolux factory in Marietta.

 

[paul]

Here is the letter I posted last week. It is posted on Purelife's website.