I know some of you will think im crazy, but I have TERRIBLE luck with Convertibles!! I know some of you can rebuild one with your eyes closed...but I always mess up something, same for a Dial a Matic...I have been trying to get a brushroll working in my Dial a Matic for a year or 2..disaster!!!!..I can take any canister apart blindfolded, but uprights in general drive me nuts!!!..the easiest motor to rebuild to me ,is a Constellation or Electrolux....the hardest..again, a Hoover upright, that bearing causes many curse words!!!!..LOLI would just once like to have a good working Convertible...I lke them..they just dont like me....the easiest upright to work on is a Royal....
What vacuums do you HATE to work on...
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The canister I will do ANYTHING to avoid tearing down is a Rainbow!! Thats enough to make a preacher cuss!!! I like them, and have several, but if they need anything, I let Clay Floyd fix it, he can tear one down and rebuild it in the time it takes me to get the spider off!...he has a trick I never saw until I met him, he runs the whole thing thru the dishwasher...field coils armature and all!!!! when its thru, it all looks like new!
The canister I will do ANYTHING to avoid tearing down is a Rainbow!! Thats enough to make a preacher cuss!!! I like them, and have several, but if they need anything, I let Clay Floyd fix it, he can tear one down and rebuild it in the time it takes me to get the spider off!...he has a trick I never saw until I met him, he runs the whole thing thru the dishwasher...field coils armature and all!!!! when its thru, it all looks like new!
marks_here
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I haven't had a dam open before, the concepts are pretty easy, brush rolls can be tricky as I revamped my concept one the bearings were filthy took them out, cleaned them in a jar of mineral spirits over night, dried them then oiled them (not dw40 but sewing machine oil) & it now works splendidly! Now royals I haven't I did one but there was that red square thingy that attached to the wires on the motor, forgot to put it back...BOOM so from that point on I stay away from them. I have a Hoover Slimline & Portable that are working good & thanks to Fred on here gave me support on how to open them up. Electrolux I did one once but wired it wrong & it spun in the wrong direction. Haven't tried any new ones because they are all disposable so why put forth the effort.
dysonman1
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I hate working on Rainbows. That being said, the fact that I worked on them for more than 25 years, and could rebuild one with my eyes closed, doesn't make them easier. Every Rainbow service man needs a blow torch and a sledge hammer to get them apart.
By far the worst vacuum to rebuild ever, is the Filter Queen model 200. There's more damn screws in that thing. Unnecessarily complex and over engineered.
As far as modern cleaners go, the Die Soon DC28 is the worst. Cleans well and is a fascinating machine, but hell to work on. So is the first "ball" model - DC15. Horrible.
By far the worst vacuum to rebuild ever, is the Filter Queen model 200. There's more damn screws in that thing. Unnecessarily complex and over engineered.
As far as modern cleaners go, the Die Soon DC28 is the worst. Cleans well and is a fascinating machine, but hell to work on. So is the first "ball" model - DC15. Horrible.
durango159
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I don't have tons of experience with vintage repairs but
Hoover Dimension 1000 canisters are a lot of parts to remove to access motor area. They are time consuming for cleaning.
Two of my friends got stuck working on a Dial A Matic once and I had to figure it out. It was tricky- they gave me all of the screws and everything from scratch to figure out. It was funny!!
This machine would be Contemporary Forum but since the question was asked:
Many newer market machines like bagless Eureka Altimas from around 10 years ago are awful to take apart just because of how filthy they are. Every part you remove is filthy, even areas like the headlight which is completely separate from motor housing and air ducts.
Hoover Dimension 1000 canisters are a lot of parts to remove to access motor area. They are time consuming for cleaning.
Two of my friends got stuck working on a Dial A Matic once and I had to figure it out. It was tricky- they gave me all of the screws and everything from scratch to figure out. It was funny!!
This machine would be Contemporary Forum but since the question was asked:
Many newer market machines like bagless Eureka Altimas from around 10 years ago are awful to take apart just because of how filthy they are. Every part you remove is filthy, even areas like the headlight which is completely separate from motor housing and air ducts.
sebo_fan
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I love old Hoover Juniors especially the "last classic" U1104 but its the U1104 that seems to get me into trouble. When getting into the faceplate, the pin that holds the combo release and power on button always slips out and gets lost. A gentle, slow and patient mind is often required with the old Hoovers.
gsheen
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I was discussing this with my two Technicians, Robert and Sam.
They don't really work on vintage machines that's my department, and it would be the Hoover Junior. Concept one for all its cir clips
On Modern machines we all agreed any of the new Electrolux /AEG Ultra ones,Ultra active and Ultra performer's. Its impossible to open the machine without leaving some scaring on the body while trying to remove clipped in covers or cord/switch buttons.
However our most hated modern machine would be the AEG/Electrolux twin clean. Too many sensors circuit boards and little air tubes that can be easily pinched in re assembly and rendering the machine useless. Great machine but oh when one comes into our workshop I run the other way
They don't really work on vintage machines that's my department, and it would be the Hoover Junior. Concept one for all its cir clips
On Modern machines we all agreed any of the new Electrolux /AEG Ultra ones,Ultra active and Ultra performer's. Its impossible to open the machine without leaving some scaring on the body while trying to remove clipped in covers or cord/switch buttons.
However our most hated modern machine would be the AEG/Electrolux twin clean. Too many sensors circuit boards and little air tubes that can be easily pinched in re assembly and rendering the machine useless. Great machine but oh when one comes into our workshop I run the other way
s31463221
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I would rather have a root canal......
Than to tear into a Rainbow! Most vacuums don't bother me to tear into, especially the Electrolux tanks, but a blasted Rainbow sends me into fits! I use one to clean with but absolutely detest the idea of ever having to do anything other than basic maintenance on it!
Than to tear into a Rainbow! Most vacuums don't bother me to tear into, especially the Electrolux tanks, but a blasted Rainbow sends me into fits! I use one to clean with but absolutely detest the idea of ever having to do anything other than basic maintenance on it!
super-sweeper
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I hate working on Dysons! You can't take the cyclone apart, and that's all I clean when I get one in for refurbishment! I don't even WANT to know what it takes to get into a ball model!
That being said, Fantoms are far easier to completely break-down for service. Convertibles, too,but I rarely encounter a Convertible that needs anything besides a good cleaning! I wonder why!
That being said, Fantoms are far easier to completely break-down for service. Convertibles, too,but I rarely encounter a Convertible that needs anything besides a good cleaning! I wonder why!
marks_here
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I don't know 
daknx1994
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Alex
Believe me, you do not want to know what it takes to get into a ball model Dyson. They are a pain in the you know what. Dyson's are the one vacuum I hate to work on. Way to complicated to get to certain components.
Believe me, you do not want to know what it takes to get into a ball model Dyson. They are a pain in the you know what. Dyson's are the one vacuum I hate to work on. Way to complicated to get to certain components.
super-sweeper
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I've encountered one before, thankfully I had to resemble it, not tear it down!
cb123
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I can't exactly remember the best way to dissemble a Dyson, is it with an ax or a hammer?
Hateful vacuums-to me that could include ANY present day bagless machines-Yes,Esp Dysons.Speaking of overengineered and too many parts-Dyson would win that award!!Yes,agree on the ball ones-worked with one at the vac place--HORRIBLE-that thing makes you want to tear out hair!!Its no wonder many Dysons end up in dumpsters.Too hard to work on.
eurekastar
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I once acquired a Hoover Dial-a-Matic that was in good shape, but all the foam insulation in it was rotten. I just about lost my Jesus getting that thing back together!
Rainbows can be a real challenge too if they haven't been maintained, especially with the D3 and D2 models. If they've been properly maintained, they're fairly straightforward.
Rainbows can be a real challenge too if they haven't been maintained, especially with the D3 and D2 models. If they've been properly maintained, they're fairly straightforward.
gsheen
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I think it has a lot to do with how often you work in them, although SOME ( especially water filtration machines have a tendency to rust shut)
I can tear down and rebuild a dyson dc25 in 15 min. Actually 14.5min. Total strip down and re assembly. I had a bet with my two techs who could do it faster. I won. (We were using power drivers though)
I worked on a assembly line when I was 16 at Electrolux in my Holidays. you learn how to work fast but properly.
When I first got into vacuum repair I worked at a company called Lanzon services in Wynberg in Cape Town. It is a older suburb and many of the residence still used Hoover Convertibles ( 652 here ) and Seniors ( closed hood 652 ) The most common fault was dry or worn bearings. We would do an overhaul incuding brush roll bearings and brush strips, carbon brushes , New bottom bearing and clean and re oil the sleeve bearing + a general scrub down and clean. I never timed myself but I could do 8 - 10 after lunch till home time ( 12 -4.45 pm ) Having the right tools and space made all the difference. I also never worked on just one but had as many as needed repair on seperate stations at the same time.
I can tear down and rebuild a dyson dc25 in 15 min. Actually 14.5min. Total strip down and re assembly. I had a bet with my two techs who could do it faster. I won. (We were using power drivers though)
I worked on a assembly line when I was 16 at Electrolux in my Holidays. you learn how to work fast but properly.
When I first got into vacuum repair I worked at a company called Lanzon services in Wynberg in Cape Town. It is a older suburb and many of the residence still used Hoover Convertibles ( 652 here ) and Seniors ( closed hood 652 ) The most common fault was dry or worn bearings. We would do an overhaul incuding brush roll bearings and brush strips, carbon brushes , New bottom bearing and clean and re oil the sleeve bearing + a general scrub down and clean. I never timed myself but I could do 8 - 10 after lunch till home time ( 12 -4.45 pm ) Having the right tools and space made all the difference. I also never worked on just one but had as many as needed repair on seperate stations at the same time.
cb123
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You think that something! I can dissemble a plastic vac in 0.4 seconds, but I must confess, there never seems to be enough parts to put it back together again - after that buck and ball tears through it!
I'm just jinking you, I always try to pass a " STEAMER " on to someone else, anyway!
I'm just jinking you, I always try to pass a " STEAMER " on to someone else, anyway!
