ilikeoddvacuums
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all i know is the bissell powerforce would be one of them
what are the best selling vacuums?
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Manufacturers are always advertising their products telling us their model "cleans better than the best selling upright" but can't say what model that actually is! Bissell prints on all their boxes that they are the #1 floor brand, and I'm pretty sure the Cleanview Helix their best seller. I believe Hoover's is the T-Series UH70120. One of those most be the overall top seller.
Here's a picture of the T-Series UH70120 I took at Target in July 2012 boasting it's one of the top selling cleaners.
Here's a picture of the T-Series UH70120 I took at Target in July 2012 boasting it's one of the top selling cleaners.
ilikeoddvacuums
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that's funny
because i saw a eureka air speed that said "cleans better than dyson" when i believe that's a lie because thats like putting a hoover elite against a dirt devil breeze it's just too obvious who won
because i saw a eureka air speed that said "cleans better than dyson" when i believe that's a lie because thats like putting a hoover elite against a dirt devil breeze it's just too obvious who won
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also
i meant best selling vacuum OF ALL TIME not from the past decade
i meant best selling vacuum OF ALL TIME not from the past decade
sebo_fan
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Best selling does not mean it is the best.
Firstly I don't know any reliable source online or offline where you get an "all time" best selling brand or best selling models - its all marketing. One brand says it is best selling but that doesn't mean its good. The brand I think of the most in the UK with this sales tag is Hoover and their venerable old Purepower bagged uprights. One of the reasons to why it is best selling is because it is one of few bagged uprights on the market that is cheap to buy and secondly, its been out on the market for so long with existing dust bags that can be used on previous bagged hard box uprights that its about time it was put out to pasture despite spares such as bags being cheap to buy and widespread to find. Thus, no brainer there to see why it is best selling.
Panasonic's long standing bagged uprights in the UK are a far easier upright to use though some would argue that it doesn't deep clean as well as Hoover's Purepower because of the Panasonic auto adjustment. I have issues with both but if I was offered Hoover's best selling Purepower over a Panasonic upright, I'd choose the Panasonic - the thought of pushing the weight of a small bag of potatoes for deep cleaning with an equally awkward shaped handle isn't my idea of comfortable and quick cleaning.
Firstly I don't know any reliable source online or offline where you get an "all time" best selling brand or best selling models - its all marketing. One brand says it is best selling but that doesn't mean its good. The brand I think of the most in the UK with this sales tag is Hoover and their venerable old Purepower bagged uprights. One of the reasons to why it is best selling is because it is one of few bagged uprights on the market that is cheap to buy and secondly, its been out on the market for so long with existing dust bags that can be used on previous bagged hard box uprights that its about time it was put out to pasture despite spares such as bags being cheap to buy and widespread to find. Thus, no brainer there to see why it is best selling.
Panasonic's long standing bagged uprights in the UK are a far easier upright to use though some would argue that it doesn't deep clean as well as Hoover's Purepower because of the Panasonic auto adjustment. I have issues with both but if I was offered Hoover's best selling Purepower over a Panasonic upright, I'd choose the Panasonic - the thought of pushing the weight of a small bag of potatoes for deep cleaning with an equally awkward shaped handle isn't my idea of comfortable and quick cleaning.
durango159
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SeboFan is correct!
Top Selling and Top performing are 2 different things.
Top Selling right now is most likely based on the following:
1) Price-- the economy is awful
2) What's on sale-- The primary reason why Kenmore has been mentioned by Consumer Reports as being the most popularly selling canisters, is that nearly every Sunday and many times on Thursdays, for the past 25+ years, there is a picture of at least 1 Kenmore canister on sale in a Sears circular. Even when Hoover and Eureka canisters were sold in department stores, the appearance of them in a competitors circular was quite infrequent.
3) Many consumers shop at Wal-Mart
4) Bagless- people think that seeing the dirt in the cup and having to empty it each time means its cleaning better than bagged. They don't realize how much smaller the dirt cups are the lack of ability of a bagless vacuum to compact the dirt in as would be in a bagged upright. For pet owners, bagless is quite a benefit, because pet hair fills bags quickly. But for deep cleaning of deep down dirt and dust bagged works out better for capturing the dust and not clogging a filter.
There are some Hoovers and Eurekas on the market that do advertise on the box that they outclean a Dyson. This is usually mentioned along with a percentage of by how much more and is supposed to be backed by facts of ASTM Testing. ASTM is an independent testing agency based on various tests by different methods, each with a different test number, example F2609. This testing is creditable with controlled variables unlike those of Consumer Reports whose test methods may change yearly and use substances like Talcum powder which clogs filter pores quickly immediately draining power. However at the same time all vacuum models are different. A Hoover Decade 800 cleans different than a Hoover Elite which cleans different than a Windtunnel T, which cleans different than an Anniversary Windtunnel canister, etc. The same is for Dysons and any other brand. I have had great results with many models of a brand while receiving unimpressive with other brands. Suction, Airflow, Agitation, Edge Cleaning, location of and size of suction duct in agitator cavity, softness of bristles, arrangement, and length of bristle extending below base plate are all factors involved in cleaning ability. Some models perform better on commercial indoor/outdoor carpet, others perform better on plush, others perform better on loose weave.
A perfect vacuum of all surfaces and a real evaluation of a vacuum for ones environment requires a trip to your local vacuum store where with expert advice and experimenting with various machines one can look at design differences and decide what will perform best and makes sense for the surfaces, layout of owners property and usability for that owner.
Top Selling and Top performing are 2 different things.
Top Selling right now is most likely based on the following:
1) Price-- the economy is awful
2) What's on sale-- The primary reason why Kenmore has been mentioned by Consumer Reports as being the most popularly selling canisters, is that nearly every Sunday and many times on Thursdays, for the past 25+ years, there is a picture of at least 1 Kenmore canister on sale in a Sears circular. Even when Hoover and Eureka canisters were sold in department stores, the appearance of them in a competitors circular was quite infrequent.
3) Many consumers shop at Wal-Mart
4) Bagless- people think that seeing the dirt in the cup and having to empty it each time means its cleaning better than bagged. They don't realize how much smaller the dirt cups are the lack of ability of a bagless vacuum to compact the dirt in as would be in a bagged upright. For pet owners, bagless is quite a benefit, because pet hair fills bags quickly. But for deep cleaning of deep down dirt and dust bagged works out better for capturing the dust and not clogging a filter.
There are some Hoovers and Eurekas on the market that do advertise on the box that they outclean a Dyson. This is usually mentioned along with a percentage of by how much more and is supposed to be backed by facts of ASTM Testing. ASTM is an independent testing agency based on various tests by different methods, each with a different test number, example F2609. This testing is creditable with controlled variables unlike those of Consumer Reports whose test methods may change yearly and use substances like Talcum powder which clogs filter pores quickly immediately draining power. However at the same time all vacuum models are different. A Hoover Decade 800 cleans different than a Hoover Elite which cleans different than a Windtunnel T, which cleans different than an Anniversary Windtunnel canister, etc. The same is for Dysons and any other brand. I have had great results with many models of a brand while receiving unimpressive with other brands. Suction, Airflow, Agitation, Edge Cleaning, location of and size of suction duct in agitator cavity, softness of bristles, arrangement, and length of bristle extending below base plate are all factors involved in cleaning ability. Some models perform better on commercial indoor/outdoor carpet, others perform better on plush, others perform better on loose weave.
A perfect vacuum of all surfaces and a real evaluation of a vacuum for ones environment requires a trip to your local vacuum store where with expert advice and experimenting with various machines one can look at design differences and decide what will perform best and makes sense for the surfaces, layout of owners property and usability for that owner.
floor-a-matic
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<blockquote>
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">A perfect vacuum of all surfaces and a real evaluation of a vacuum for ones environment requires a trip to your local vacuum store where with expert advice and experimenting with various machines one can look at design differences and decide what will perform best and makes sense for the surfaces, layout of owners property and usability for that owner.</span>
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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Generally, it all depends on the individual's household environment. For a canister, I prefer either Aerus/Electrolux & Compact/TriStar; & upright I prefer older Eureka, Hoover & Kirby.</span>
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">A perfect vacuum of all surfaces and a real evaluation of a vacuum for ones environment requires a trip to your local vacuum store where with expert advice and experimenting with various machines one can look at design differences and decide what will perform best and makes sense for the surfaces, layout of owners property and usability for that owner.</span>
</blockquote>
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Generally, it all depends on the individual's household environment. For a canister, I prefer either Aerus/Electrolux & Compact/TriStar; & upright I prefer older Eureka, Hoover & Kirby.</span>
dysonman1
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Single Model
The best selling tank type cleaner of all time would be the Electrolux model XXX. Sold from April, 1937 - October, 1955. The best selling upright was the Model 28 Hoover. These are U.S. sales figures only.
The best selling tank type cleaner of all time would be the Electrolux model XXX. Sold from April, 1937 - October, 1955. The best selling upright was the Model 28 Hoover. These are U.S. sales figures only.
sebo_fan
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Visiting your local vac store - no, not quite.
Wish I could agree Erik - sadly in the UK, of any independent shops that are left are the ones that either have refurbished cheap Chinese bagged vacuums or refurbished Dysons - its what the public are apparently demanding.
Gone are the days of finding a proper vacuum shop in the UK where "expert" knowledge covers all brands and able to give an independent view without the hard sell.
Wish I could agree Erik - sadly in the UK, of any independent shops that are left are the ones that either have refurbished cheap Chinese bagged vacuums or refurbished Dysons - its what the public are apparently demanding.
Gone are the days of finding a proper vacuum shop in the UK where "expert" knowledge covers all brands and able to give an independent view without the hard sell.
scvacuumguy
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Cute post....
It is interesting to see what you guys conceptualize as the best selling vacuum. There are a number of us on here that own stores (we have recently returned) and the numbers and statistics are all over the board. I can tell you that at VDTA this year, Dyson has touted a 28% market share in vacuums.
It is interesting to see what you guys conceptualize as the best selling vacuum. There are a number of us on here that own stores (we have recently returned) and the numbers and statistics are all over the board. I can tell you that at VDTA this year, Dyson has touted a 28% market share in vacuums.
ralph123
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VDTA this year, Dyson has touted a 28% market share in vacuu
The linked report may be of interest to you. It has some statistics on market share for 2005.
http://wps.pearsoned.co.uk/wps/media/objects/9646/9878474/Extra casestudy deel IV.2.pdf
The linked report may be of interest to you. It has some statistics on market share for 2005.
http://wps.pearsoned.co.uk/wps/media/objects/9646/9878474/Extra casestudy deel IV.2.pdf
sebo_fan
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My, my the Italians favour Hoover, don't they? And yet, there's only ONE Dyson statistic for that country. Yet again I must say that whilst Dyson does appear to be the best seller, there's no telling what the reliability is like. So many other variables exist too, most of which that report doesn't highlight.
ralph123
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The linked report isn't particularly useful for the Italian market given that the modal category is "Other". Who knows whether the information is accurate, but it makes for an interesting read. I have no idea who the author is.
sebo_fan
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Its not useful from the point that it only charts sales/data from 2005 either. I wouldn't agree that vacuum cleaners in India are poor sellers/ erratic due to power problems - from my own holiday earlier this year where our family have an Aerus/Electrolux based Eureka-Forbes cylinder vac - sales are growing in India now - and has little to do with power issues, when most homes have built in generators to compensate.
The author, or rather, authors responsible appear to be "non-named" people who work within the Pearson UK division - their about me can be found easily by looking at www.pearsoned.co.uk
http://www.pearsoned.co.uk/AboutUs/
The author, or rather, authors responsible appear to be "non-named" people who work within the Pearson UK division - their about me can be found easily by looking at www.pearsoned.co.uk
http://www.pearsoned.co.uk/AboutUs/
vintagerepairer
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Two years ago I read a detaile report which confirmed exactly what Parwaz has said; the UK three top brands were indeed Dyson, Vax, and Numatic. This, may I add, was information collated by Dyson.
Vax is Dyson's number one competitor. The same could be said about Numatic, but I have a strong feeling that a good deal of Numatic models were bought to supplement an upright cleaner, and of course Numatic is widely available in high-street stores now, making it impossible for anyone to collate statistics which show how many cleaners were purchased for domestic use, and how many for industry. Because of this, it cannot be assumed that the figure for the sales of Numatic cleaners relate solely to cleaners purchased for homes. All that can be said is that Numatic have been known to suggest that sales of their Henry and Hetty cleaner are pretty much estimated to be 50/50 home and industrial purchases, but it's not proven.
Of course a good deal of Dyson cleaners will have been purchased for industrial use to, but I think it is fair to say that sales for this sector will be low. Dyson did of course attempt to penetrate the commercial market by producing the DC04 Constamax, a cleaner which was never going to catch on within it's target sector as it was so incredibly expensive when compared to a basic tub-style cleaner. It may have had more of a chance if it had been of a cylindrical style not upright, as uprights are rarely favoured for industrial use. Dyson claims that the reason for withdrawing from the commercial sector was because most cleaning is done by third-party cleaning services who like to buy their cleaners and other cleaning products in one place. I say it is because they simply could not get their retail price.
Vax is Dyson's number one competitor. The same could be said about Numatic, but I have a strong feeling that a good deal of Numatic models were bought to supplement an upright cleaner, and of course Numatic is widely available in high-street stores now, making it impossible for anyone to collate statistics which show how many cleaners were purchased for domestic use, and how many for industry. Because of this, it cannot be assumed that the figure for the sales of Numatic cleaners relate solely to cleaners purchased for homes. All that can be said is that Numatic have been known to suggest that sales of their Henry and Hetty cleaner are pretty much estimated to be 50/50 home and industrial purchases, but it's not proven.
Of course a good deal of Dyson cleaners will have been purchased for industrial use to, but I think it is fair to say that sales for this sector will be low. Dyson did of course attempt to penetrate the commercial market by producing the DC04 Constamax, a cleaner which was never going to catch on within it's target sector as it was so incredibly expensive when compared to a basic tub-style cleaner. It may have had more of a chance if it had been of a cylindrical style not upright, as uprights are rarely favoured for industrial use. Dyson claims that the reason for withdrawing from the commercial sector was because most cleaning is done by third-party cleaning services who like to buy their cleaners and other cleaning products in one place. I say it is because they simply could not get their retail price.
sebo_fan
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Bag-less won't sell much in the commercial industry
Having worked in the commercial cleaning industry, we never used bagless uprights - the flying dust has always been a safety and hygiene issue that a lot of the companies weren't happy to go against. The shake out dust bag on the old Hoover commercial uprights were also short lived when companies realised paper dust bags could be fitted, even though they had to be additionally bought. A lot of hotels use SEBO uprights or old Hoover commercial uprights simply because of the reliability, filtration AND the paper dust bag inside, which for the Hoover uprights restricts to just the bag - but that is enough compared to the threat of dust escaping with the bagless route.
As a result mostly all areas of industry including hospitals and clinics will use a bagged vacuum. Henry is just super though I could never see it as a Dyson competitor. To me Dyson is a domestic brand compared to SEBO uprights and Numatic ranges.
Had Vax just stuck to its canister tubs, they'd probably just be a rival to Numatic as opposed to going with TTI and becoming one of the largest brands with differentiated priced products - Dyson have yet to achieve that - they're still far too expensive in my eyes for their products.
Having worked in the commercial cleaning industry, we never used bagless uprights - the flying dust has always been a safety and hygiene issue that a lot of the companies weren't happy to go against. The shake out dust bag on the old Hoover commercial uprights were also short lived when companies realised paper dust bags could be fitted, even though they had to be additionally bought. A lot of hotels use SEBO uprights or old Hoover commercial uprights simply because of the reliability, filtration AND the paper dust bag inside, which for the Hoover uprights restricts to just the bag - but that is enough compared to the threat of dust escaping with the bagless route.
As a result mostly all areas of industry including hospitals and clinics will use a bagged vacuum. Henry is just super though I could never see it as a Dyson competitor. To me Dyson is a domestic brand compared to SEBO uprights and Numatic ranges.
Had Vax just stuck to its canister tubs, they'd probably just be a rival to Numatic as opposed to going with TTI and becoming one of the largest brands with differentiated priced products - Dyson have yet to achieve that - they're still far too expensive in my eyes for their products.
