Trash Find—Electrolux Diplomat

[kloveland]

It’s not supposed to shut off when you put your hand over the intake. When you put it back together the same thing will happen at the end of the hose when resistance is applied. Check the valve and the tubing to make sure the tubing is connected to the appropriate spots.

If you said finger in the intake that would make sense. I’ll put my finger near the tiny hole on the inside of the intake to make the unit shut off to check to see if the automatic shut off is working. That’s a different story.


It should not shut off with your hand over the intake. Think about it. If that was the case then it would shut off every time you sucked up something and blocked the airflow. Like vacuuming the couch.

At least put the hose on and see if it shuts off. If it does then you need to go back and look at the tubing and valve assembly. You could also test it with the sidekick or PN.

 

[human]

Bigger issues....

Yeah, it won't run at all with the hose attached, much less any sort of nozzle. I guess the next step is to open her back up and bypass the valve. At least it will run that way without costing me any more money (replacement side strips notwithstanding). That's probably why the machine got trashed in the first place. All that said, I am reasonably certain I have the three tubes on the valve assembly connected properly because there was only one logical way for them to go. For simplicity's sake, we'll call them tubes A, B, and C:

'Tube A' runs from the valve to the power switch assembly and was already connected at both ends when I opened the machine up, so no need to mess with it.

'Tube B' Runs from the bag door, under the bag chamber and connects to the valve. This one was disconnected at the valve end so it was obvious it needed to go to the one empty nipple on the valve.

Tube C--was connected to the valve assembly and the other end was loose when I opened the unit up. The only logical place I saw to attach it was a little (dummy?) nipple on the back side of the bag chamber. This is the only connection I was unsure of but I saw no other place for it to attach. If it was meant to hang loose, why put a piece of tubing on it? Also, the tubing was exactly the right length to reach that nipple and the nipple was exactly the right length and diameter to hold the nipple. so it didn't seem coincidental to me, although I admit I fail to understand its purpose when the same result could be achieved simply by eliminating the third nipple from the valve.

Oh yeah, I've also got a wire crossed somewhere because the power nozzle runs with the vacuum turned off, similar to the aforementioned Silverado. I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to do that. At this point, I really do wish I'd just jammed that knob into place and called it a day.

 

[human]

Correction...

...the nipple is exactly the right length and diameter to hold the tube.

 

[vacuumlad1650]

Edgar, would it be any help for me to post a wiring diagram for you? I have a printed one I can scan in

 

[kloveland]

Sounds like you have all the tubes connected properly. I’d put money on it being the valve. You can get one for about $25.00 on eBay. Or just leave it disconnected as you said. The non-automatics such as the LE didn’t have one anyway.

 

[human]

Wiring Diagram...

Andy,
The wiring diagram would be greatly appreciated. In reconnecting the wires, I was working from a photo I took on my phone before I removed the original cord winder when I first acquired the machine, along with the labels molded into the plastic of the upper shell. One side has orange, white and red wires while the other has yellow, gray and white (not necessarily in that order). With white wires on both sides, I'd say the odds are better than even that I've got them reversed.

 

[vacuumlad1650]

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[human]

That diagram will be very helpful. Thanks, Andy!

 

[human]

It's done...

The side strips I ordered finally arrived yesterday. Gotta love the efficiency of our postal service. After holding the gray strips up to the machine, I decided I didn't like the monochromatic look, compared to its factory color scheme, so I took the nylon inner strip off of the one I needed to replace and put it on my blue outer bumper.

I opened the machine up this afternoon, found and corrected the wiring error in about a minute (Thanks again for the diagram, Andy) and disconnected the suction valve before putting it all back together. As always, the first strip went into place easily but the second one required me to place the weight of one knee on the machine to get it to slide into place.

So now, I have the vacuum back together, cosmetically complete with the knob that started this whole fiasco, and fully functional except for the disabled valve. At this point, I have no desire whatsoever to go back into the machine and replace that valve and I can't imagine ever wanting to do so but at least it looks right. I honestly would have been better off just leaving well enough alone or at the most, just taking two seconds to jam that knob into place.

 

[vacuumlad1650]

Glad that diagram helped. When I got my diplomat (or was it my 2100?) I repaired that same dial and accidently left one of the wires to the little bag indicator off...Either it shorted or was necessary to be hooked up at all times because I blew a few fuses trying to get it working! Another member finally sent that schematic over and I got it all buttoned up