The ejector on the Electrolux model lx works when you do it manually, however, how can I get it to eject the bag automatically? The bag is full. There is still good suction though. I already sucked up some flour and shredded paper. What can I put in it to clog the bag? It is amazing how much suction there is even though the bag is packed with paper and dust.
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caligula
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Ejecting the model LX.
Hi Lovelux:
You say the wrapper (bag) is full, but there's still good suction. There's the problem. If the wrapper isn't full enough the machine isn't ready yet. The leaver trigers the ejection process, but the key here is air flow.
Okay, to test it, take a roll of toilet paper as it's soft, no, paper towels are too thick and will clog. Remove the hose, turn on the vacuum, and feed the paper into the suction end till the front cover pops open and the motor shuts off. As the motor winds down, the wrapper will be pushed out of the chamber.
I suggest you keep a wrapper filled in order to test the process from time to time.
Oh, I forgot to ask is there is a dial on the underside that reads Hasten and Retard?' If so set it at hasten to make it eject faster.
That should do it, if not then the tubing needs to be replaced, which I'll address in another post.
So try the T.P. test and see if it works.
Good luck.
Alex Taber.
Hi Lovelux:
You say the wrapper (bag) is full, but there's still good suction. There's the problem. If the wrapper isn't full enough the machine isn't ready yet. The leaver trigers the ejection process, but the key here is air flow.
Okay, to test it, take a roll of toilet paper as it's soft, no, paper towels are too thick and will clog. Remove the hose, turn on the vacuum, and feed the paper into the suction end till the front cover pops open and the motor shuts off. As the motor winds down, the wrapper will be pushed out of the chamber.
I suggest you keep a wrapper filled in order to test the process from time to time.
Oh, I forgot to ask is there is a dial on the underside that reads Hasten and Retard?' If so set it at hasten to make it eject faster.
That should do it, if not then the tubing needs to be replaced, which I'll address in another post.
So try the T.P. test and see if it works.
Good luck.
Alex Taber.
My email isnt working so ill type the instructions. There is a brass covered rivet inside the hosepoert around the 9:00 position. turn on the machine and move 2 fingers forward and backward from the rivet. The door should in turn open from the change in airflow. As my ejector is disconnected, ill make the video in my Silverado. its the same concept, just different rivet location
Hope this Helps, and ill try to make the email work!
Andy Rousonelos
Hope this Helps, and ill try to make the email work!
Andy Rousonelos
hey Steve
i got another failure notice from my email, so why dont you email me and ill send you the email? That way i have the correct email address
Thanks!
Andy Rousonelos
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i got another failure notice from my email, so why dont you email me and ill send you the email? That way i have the correct email address
Thanks!
Andy Rousonelos
[email protected]
Thanks Alex
I will try it with the toilet paper and see what happens. There is no dial on the underside, just the lever that when you push it up, the ejector works. The tubing was replaced when I did the fix. I am just amazed how much suction there is even though the bag looks and feels like it is going to explode.
Hey Andy - no need to do a video yet until I do this test Alex suggested. Thanks.
I will try it with the toilet paper and see what happens. There is no dial on the underside, just the lever that when you push it up, the ejector works. The tubing was replaced when I did the fix. I am just amazed how much suction there is even though the bag looks and feels like it is going to explode.
Hey Andy - no need to do a video yet until I do this test Alex suggested. Thanks.
caligula
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No dial, wow, you have one of the very first of the line.
The Electrolux LX is designed to work untill the suction drops due to dirt in the wrapper reduces it to the point that the ejection process kicks in. And these wrappers are designed to hold a lot of dirt.
I remember waiting for weeks to see it eject. Under normal use the machine ejects about every 6 weeks, or 5-6 full housecleanings.
You can also design a 'test' wrapper by filling it with soft material like the t.p. kleenex, or cotton balls. And here's another suggestion. Once the wrapper fills and is ejected, reset the ejector, put the wrapper back inside and add more t.p. till it ejects again. Repeat this till it ejects as soon as the motor is turned on.
This really is a trial and error process because the mechenism is designed to eject only when the correct degree of suction is lost.
Back in 1952, there were special tools the salesmen had to demonstrate in the home, but we don't know what they were, or how they were used.
The Electrolux LX is designed to work untill the suction drops due to dirt in the wrapper reduces it to the point that the ejection process kicks in. And these wrappers are designed to hold a lot of dirt.
I remember waiting for weeks to see it eject. Under normal use the machine ejects about every 6 weeks, or 5-6 full housecleanings.
You can also design a 'test' wrapper by filling it with soft material like the t.p. kleenex, or cotton balls. And here's another suggestion. Once the wrapper fills and is ejected, reset the ejector, put the wrapper back inside and add more t.p. till it ejects again. Repeat this till it ejects as soon as the motor is turned on.
This really is a trial and error process because the mechenism is designed to eject only when the correct degree of suction is lost.
Back in 1952, there were special tools the salesmen had to demonstrate in the home, but we don't know what they were, or how they were used.
caligula
Well-known member
Problems with the ejector.
Hi Lovelux:
The reason for the dial was that there were problems in the early days, little things that happened to customers that did not happen in the early testing stages at the factory.
The type of dirt will effect the ejection process. Fine material like baby powder will clog the pores of the wrapper causing it to eject when only half full. In other cases, the wrapper filled, and the ejector pushed it forward, but the front cover didn't open. Result, the wrapper exploded sending dirt into the motor. And yes, Electrolux was quick to make the repairs at no cost to the customer. To avoid these problems, most customers had a dial installed to control the ejection. In later models, or around 1953, the dial was standard.
As you are using t.p. no problem, but be warned that the front cover may not pop open, so watch the process and see what happens.
If there is no suction, and it doesn't eject, don't overheat the motor, you'll have a defective mechenism, and that can be fixed. But I suspect the wrapper simply hasn't reached full capacity.
Good luck.
Hi Lovelux:
The reason for the dial was that there were problems in the early days, little things that happened to customers that did not happen in the early testing stages at the factory.
The type of dirt will effect the ejection process. Fine material like baby powder will clog the pores of the wrapper causing it to eject when only half full. In other cases, the wrapper filled, and the ejector pushed it forward, but the front cover didn't open. Result, the wrapper exploded sending dirt into the motor. And yes, Electrolux was quick to make the repairs at no cost to the customer. To avoid these problems, most customers had a dial installed to control the ejection. In later models, or around 1953, the dial was standard.
As you are using t.p. no problem, but be warned that the front cover may not pop open, so watch the process and see what happens.
If there is no suction, and it doesn't eject, don't overheat the motor, you'll have a defective mechenism, and that can be fixed. But I suspect the wrapper simply hasn't reached full capacity.
Good luck.
Mine has no dial either! Sadly, it has been repainted by Metropolitan who disabled my ejector. i works, but needs a new line running from the diaphragm to the hose-port
caligula
Well-known member
Yes you also have a early model LX.
Did they leave the ejector inside the bag (wrapper) chamber? It's a flat spring on a trolly, and has the words 'PUSH HERE' on it. If so then all you need is the tube, and you can get that at a pet store like Petco in the fish tank department.
The Lux xxx/30 thread will show how to attach it.
Did they leave the ejector inside the bag (wrapper) chamber? It's a flat spring on a trolly, and has the words 'PUSH HERE' on it. If so then all you need is the tube, and you can get that at a pet store like Petco in the fish tank department.
The Lux xxx/30 thread will show how to attach it.
Caligua
Everything works, except its so sensitive since there is no line creating a vacuum. I took a video I can email you if you like. Been to busy to go to PetSmart. I really have to hand it to BikerRay as he helped me fix this over the phone
Andy Rousonelos
Everything works, except its so sensitive since there is no line creating a vacuum. I took a video I can email you if you like. Been to busy to go to PetSmart. I really have to hand it to BikerRay as he helped me fix this over the phone
Andy Rousonelos
caligula
Well-known member
Hi guys:
The Electrolux model LX is a common item on Ebay. And that way you have access to needed parts. It's also great to have a second one.
See what's out there.
The Electrolux model LX is a common item on Ebay. And that way you have access to needed parts. It's also great to have a second one.
See what's out there.
Test failed!
I fed it the toilet paper and it stopped sucking it, but the ejector did not eject the bag. Not sure why though and what to look at since it has the tube connected on both ends. How can I test if the diaphragm is working or not? I made sure the nipples where the tube connects was not clogged. I actually blew air into the holes with a can of air you use to clean computer keyboards to clear any dirt. The kind of hose I am using is rubber, like the one used on a windshield washer. You think I need to use the plastic? I have some aquarium tubing but it is too big and will not stay on the nipple. Geez!
I fed it the toilet paper and it stopped sucking it, but the ejector did not eject the bag. Not sure why though and what to look at since it has the tube connected on both ends. How can I test if the diaphragm is working or not? I made sure the nipples where the tube connects was not clogged. I actually blew air into the holes with a can of air you use to clean computer keyboards to clear any dirt. The kind of hose I am using is rubber, like the one used on a windshield washer. You think I need to use the plastic? I have some aquarium tubing but it is too big and will not stay on the nipple. Geez!
Try moving your 2 fingers closer to and away from the rivet in the suction post (around the 9 o'clock position). That seems to work for me
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The machine has to be running as well. forgot that part
caligula
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Fear not, we will get it working.
Since you were able to activate the ejector by hand means it works, so the problem IS in the tubing which can be replaced. Keep in mind the ejector is 62 years old. As I suggested, read Daves post to walk you through the process.
It might be a good investment to buy another model LX for the parts.
Alex Taber.
Since you were able to activate the ejector by hand means it works, so the problem IS in the tubing which can be replaced. Keep in mind the ejector is 62 years old. As I suggested, read Daves post to walk you through the process.
It might be a good investment to buy another model LX for the parts.
Alex Taber.
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