electrolux-dude
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Here's an interesting Electrolux Hose I got today, the handle end looks really different, Is it rare?
Rare Electrolux Hose?
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suckolux
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1205? NO?
crevicetool
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Nathan,
I'm wondering if this is one of those "experimental" Lux "G" electric hoses that for some reason didn't do too well - and they quit making them. Are there red tracings in the hose?
There was a thread on this hose once I think.
It's cool lookin'
Rick
I'm wondering if this is one of those "experimental" Lux "G" electric hoses that for some reason didn't do too well - and they quit making them. Are there red tracings in the hose?
There was a thread on this hose once I think.
It's cool lookin'
Rick
electrolux-dude
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Red Tracings
Yes there are red tracings in the hose.
That's what I'm thinking--Perhaps for a Lux G.
Yes there are red tracings in the hose.
That's what I'm thinking--Perhaps for a Lux G.
crevicetool
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Then I do think it is one of those super-rare hoses! Hang on to it for sure!!!
Better yet, send it to me and I'll watch over it for you. You shouldn't have to burden yourself keeping an eye on that hose.
Look, you don't have to thank me - happy to do it!
Rick
Better yet, send it to me and I'll watch over it for you. You shouldn't have to burden yourself keeping an eye on that hose.
Look, you don't have to thank me - happy to do it!
Rick
pnluxconvlvr
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Great original hose.
That's nice.
That's nice.
red_october
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OK, stupid question time here. I know some early power nozzles had problems -specifically the hoses shocked the ever-living shit out of people. Is this one of those hoses? What was the problem with it, and what was the problem with the early Lewyt PNs that supposedly electrocuted people? Was it manufacturing defects? Lousy design? Wear?
electrolux~137
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<span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: medium;">Oh my goodness. I need smelling salts QUICK.</span>
<span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: medium;">That is a very rare hose, the first Electrolux electric hose, introduced with the Model G. It was a flop so they didn't continue selling it. There was a similar version for the bronze G that apparently was also a flop because again it was mothballed. </span>
<span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: medium;">The first 1205 came out with a non-electric hose with a strap-on cord. It wasn't until the second version of the 1205 that Electrolux again tried an electric hose, with a pigtail on the motor end, then finally they came up with an all-electric, direct-connect electric hose with the last 1205.</span>
<span style="font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: medium;">Boy oh boy, what a lucky, once-in-a-lifetime find. I sure hope you will care for it lovingly. NOT for daily-driver use!!!</span>
Why was the hose a flop? It doesn't look cumbersome to use like the current Aerus hose.
Gary
Gary
Not to change the subject here, but was Electrolux the only company that made an anti-clog hose. Machine end of the hose bigger than tool end? The picture that Nathan posted shows that so clearly.
Great find Nathan....I am sure that Crevicetool will do a wonderful job of keeping an eye on it for you.....................................................................................................................................................................................
Oh what that man won't try.....LOL
Morgan
Great find Nathan....I am sure that Crevicetool will do a wonderful job of keeping an eye on it for you.....................................................................................................................................................................................
Oh what that man won't try.....LOL
Morgan
luxflairguy
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I also have on of these hoses. I've had it about 15 years. More than rare and mine looks to never have been used. It is one of the few vacuum items I have that I keep in a secure storage area (along with a box of various Hoover brush strips)!.
Yes, it does have red tracer strips.
My Mother's 1205, purchased on 6/30/69 had the external hose cord. Six months later, the lady across the street bought a 1205 and it came with a direct connect machine end and the chorme curved wand with the double sided connection for the PN cord. One of my Mother's best friends, had a 1205 with the PN 2 and another friend had a 1205 with the full direct connect hose with the Canadian telescopic wand and a PN-1. I don't think there's ever going to be an end to the variations seen for the 1205 because to me, it was the machine that Electrolux tried out all their changes on. I may be contradicted, but I've ammassed lots of photo's of the variations on the 1205. You see as many 1205's today on EBay in the various combinations.
Yes, it does have red tracer strips.
My Mother's 1205, purchased on 6/30/69 had the external hose cord. Six months later, the lady across the street bought a 1205 and it came with a direct connect machine end and the chorme curved wand with the double sided connection for the PN cord. One of my Mother's best friends, had a 1205 with the PN 2 and another friend had a 1205 with the full direct connect hose with the Canadian telescopic wand and a PN-1. I don't think there's ever going to be an end to the variations seen for the 1205 because to me, it was the machine that Electrolux tried out all their changes on. I may be contradicted, but I've ammassed lots of photo's of the variations on the 1205. You see as many 1205's today on EBay in the various combinations.
collector2
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Re reply #6 -OK, stupid question time here. I know some early power nozzles had problems -specifically the hoses shocked the ever-living shit out of people. Is this one of those hoses? What was the problem with it, and what was the problem with the early Lewyt PNs that supposedly electrocuted people? Was it manufacturing defects? Lousy design? Wear?
It was the Lewyt machines that had that problem. What happened was they created an isolated 24 V circuit for the powerhead using a secondary winding on the motor as a transformer. Unfortunately they used the body of the machine and the wands/handgrip themselves as one pole of the circuit. When the motor got overheated the vanish insulating the wires melted off and the primary and secondary windings shorted together, sending 120 volts to the powerhead and charging the body wands and handgrip. Anyone touching these parts and beign grounded got a shock.
Electrolux always used a 120 Volt powerhead and, consequently, the power hoses were insulated so as not to allow them to become charged. I can see no reason that you should worry about a hose like this unless it was in very poor shape with exposed wires.
It was the Lewyt machines that had that problem. What happened was they created an isolated 24 V circuit for the powerhead using a secondary winding on the motor as a transformer. Unfortunately they used the body of the machine and the wands/handgrip themselves as one pole of the circuit. When the motor got overheated the vanish insulating the wires melted off and the primary and secondary windings shorted together, sending 120 volts to the powerhead and charging the body wands and handgrip. Anyone touching these parts and beign grounded got a shock.
Electrolux always used a 120 Volt powerhead and, consequently, the power hoses were insulated so as not to allow them to become charged. I can see no reason that you should worry about a hose like this unless it was in very poor shape with exposed wires.
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^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks! I always wondered about that. All I knew was that there was trouble with early ones electrocuting people, and I read later that it was Lewyt that did it. Then even later I read about rare Electrolux hoses with red patterns that were rare and supposedly "problematic". Guess I put two and two together and came up with five! If I were to guess why that hose was troublesome or unpopular, I would say it might have something to do with the huge bulge at the handle where the cord attaches. I've seen pictures of ones like that set up, and it looks a touch clumsy.
Thanks! I always wondered about that. All I knew was that there was trouble with early ones electrocuting people, and I read later that it was Lewyt that did it. Then even later I read about rare Electrolux hoses with red patterns that were rare and supposedly "problematic". Guess I put two and two together and came up with five! If I were to guess why that hose was troublesome or unpopular, I would say it might have something to do with the huge bulge at the handle where the cord attaches. I've seen pictures of ones like that set up, and it looks a touch clumsy.
floor-a-matic
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Electrolux hose
I had one like that (1st pic) but it was in poor shape & got thrown out; I wish I kept it. I don't really like the current style aftermarket hoses (except the one with Genuine Lux handle w/switch) because the suction control is a knob & not a slider & some hoses have bulky ends.
I had one like that (1st pic) but it was in poor shape & got thrown out; I wish I kept it. I don't really like the current style aftermarket hoses (except the one with Genuine Lux handle w/switch) because the suction control is a knob & not a slider & some hoses have bulky ends.
floor-a-matic
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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">How rare are these two Electrolux hoses? Both are leaky, but cosmetically good shape. I guess those came from the 1205-era?</span>
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dysonman1
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Electric Hoses for Model G's
The Model G Electric Hose was imported from Canada. It wasn't a 'failure' in the marketplace, it simply wasn't UL approved. There were only two shipments, both were sent to the US AFTER the 1205 was launched. There were NOT available during the run of the models G (both Turquoise and Bronze). In 1968, after the model 1205 was about six months into its run (with a non-electric hose packed standard and NO electric hose available for it), the first 1205 Electric hoses that WERE UL approved, were shipped from Canada along with the telescopic wand. The severe use that maids put on the Lux machines, forced the change to the more durable but less convenient "pigtail" wand cord hook up to the hose.
The Model G Electric Hose was imported from Canada. It wasn't a 'failure' in the marketplace, it simply wasn't UL approved. There were only two shipments, both were sent to the US AFTER the 1205 was launched. There were NOT available during the run of the models G (both Turquoise and Bronze). In 1968, after the model 1205 was about six months into its run (with a non-electric hose packed standard and NO electric hose available for it), the first 1205 Electric hoses that WERE UL approved, were shipped from Canada along with the telescopic wand. The severe use that maids put on the Lux machines, forced the change to the more durable but less convenient "pigtail" wand cord hook up to the hose.
