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I have a Tristar with a Eureka VGII brush roll. That's a pretty potent combination. The thing I wonder is if the carpet actually needs to be drawn into the nozzle. I know that one of the selling points of a Kirby is that it would create airflow between the carpet and the pad, thereby ensuring a more thorough cleaning job. But with today's newer styles of carpet, I think the backing is much tighter, not allowing much airflow beneath the carpet. So I don't know if traditional direct air uprights have the kind of advantage that they once did. It would be an interesting test to do.