New Roomba Self-Empties, and The New Dyson 360 is Heuristic

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New for fall 2018, both iRobot and Dyson have unveiled ambitious improvements to their robotic cleaner offerings.

The Roomba i7+ is the first robot with intelligent navigation that self-empties at its dock, into a HEPA bag for easy disposal. Easily the worst feature of good robotic cleaners is having to clean the high-maintenance filters, and messy-to-empty dirt cups. The new Roomba's dock pulls air through the dirt-bin backwards, allegedly cleaning the filter, and emptying the bin into a much higher-capacity HEPA bag, which you just toss after approximately 30 full robot bins. It also utilizes Roomba's excellent relatively maintenance-free dual-rubber brush setup, which rarely wrap with hair.



Last week Dyson quietly unveiled the Dyson 360 Heurist in Beijing, featuring a variety of improvements over their previous now-discontinued model. "Heurist" is a play on the word "heuristic," which means the ability to learn or discover. New features include a much better processor that can sort out its situation much faster than the outgoing model, and LED lights around the "eye," to help it see in the dark. Along with other improvements, Dyson is directly addressing the common complaints with it's now-discontinued robot. Dyson will begin selling the robot in China first in November, at a price 20% lower than the original 360 Eye.

The Roomba improvements of the last 3 years have genuinely surprised me. I own the first good Roomba, the 980, and it's wonderful. I'm very happy they're aggressively improving their products, in the face of lofty competition. I'm glad to see Dyson stepping up their game after their underwhelming and very expensive first offering as well.

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The more the merrier!

Are you referring to the Miele being able to remember and learn the environment? I don't see it self-emptying, as the maintenance looks very typical of any current robot cleaner.

I'm excited to see Miele improving their robots as well!

Really liked my Neatos. Best by far, and changed how I looked at robo-vacs (so thorough and smart!). Just wish the parts on them were available, and easy for the user to replace (switches, belts, etc.).
 
The RX2 comes in two flavors. The more expensive "Home Vision" variety allows you to view one of the cameras images (used for navigation) on an app on your phone.

Very freakin' cool to watch and to control "from anywhere"


It's a $1200 robotic spy & vac ~
 
A device with a camera and presubably a microphone (and who knows what other sensing technology) that connects to your smart phone- sounds good. What about if you get hacked?

People could be watching and listening to you, or your family,.... from your vacuum cleaner, right?
 
@ gregvacs28

Good luck once they put ads into the app and then the app needs access to your entire social security number and pension fund. I'm not paranoid about government listening devices, but trusting a camera and microphone vacuum to a smartphone app is just a bad idea. People can easily hack the phone, get into the app, and then remotely control the vacuum while the homeowner is away or they can enable the mic and listen for credit card numbers being read out or other personal details. You can case their house without ever breaking in, know where they keep all their valuables, record them entering in their safe key code, and etc. Now if the vacuum ran on its own proprietary remote (perhaps outsource to a cheap tablet manufacturing company) then it would be a lot safer.
 
A lot of models now sync with Amazon Alexa or Google Home, but tbh I would never have one of those in my home. The Roomba's app is very easy to set up and intuitive. You can remotely have it run anytime, and the app will show you the progress, and when it's completed (or if it gets stuck or the bin is full). Of course you don't need to connect the vacuum to the internet at all, so it's just a nifty extra.
 
Watching, perhaps; but no mic for audio on the RX2, and no recording.

Would be a pretty boring hack though. If someone wants to go clean the house for me, more power to them.

If I were home, I think I'd hear it arrive to watch me ...


Really, I worry little about those things. I just love the gadgetry ~
 
As much as it is nice to see, I don't really think it is the first self emptying robot vacuum. Karcher had that quite a few years ago with their RC4000. No clue how good or effective it was but I remember the docking station had it's own vacuum that would suck out the debris out of the robot's container. And I think it's been around for a good 10 years? You can see the videos of it way back from 2008/09.

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karcher robocleaner

I remember reading a review about this robot, I'm not sure if it was ever sold in the United States, but it was able to empty itself. I don't think it had any cameras or mapping capabilities, it used the random method to find its way around.
The new Roomba looks interesting, although robot cleaners are still not nearly as powerful as corded vacs. Since they are cordless, they clean about as good as any cordless vacuum would. I have a neato xv12 that cleans pretty well, it's an older model and I've never really had any desire to purchase a newer one. On Amazon, the Dyson and Samsung bots have gotten mostly bad reviews.
Mike
 

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