New Fuller Brush Bagless Upright from Tacony Corp.

[dysonman1]

The brand new Fuller Brush bagless upright vacuum (Jiffy Maid) and bagless electric broom (Spiffy Maid) are finally here and ready to sell. I really like them both. The Jiffy Maid is Tacony's first bagless upright.

 

[dysonman1]

Full Color cartons for both machines.

 

[dysonman1]

My friend and fellow vacuum collector, using the new Jiffy Maid on the Frieze carpet in the 1970's room of the Museum

 

[sebo_fan]

Whoops. The bagless upright has landed in the UK already under our "Morphy Richards" brand name, who also sell rebadged "Shark Navigator Lift Away" uprights. This is the 73423 range, there's also a white one.

 

[madabouthoovers]

The bin and motor assembly moulding with the in built light is also used on the UK HooverCandy Turbopower UTP1610/UTP1605 models which have been around over here for the last 3 years, so it seems that this design is used in a fair few vacs.


 


This model usually sells in the UK now, for around the £125 mark (200 Bucks) (but was originally £250 or $400 when launched)


Just wondering how much the Tacony product sells for in the US? Seeing as Riccars are very expensive, I'd imagine the Fuller Brush model will have a hefty price tag?


 


 


 

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[dysonman1]

The Fuller Brush Jiffy Maid sells for $179.

 

[madabouthoovers]

That's a good price - we have a cheaper version of the above blue model called the Jazz by Hoover, which is the same but has no headlight and a shorter hose and cable and this sells for about £100 which would be about 160 bucks.


Its amazing to me how so many different models use the same design for their parts.


I thought with Tacony owning Riccar, that this product would be quite expensive, due to the fact that Riccars are very expensive and premium vacs that sell for hundreds of dollars.


I do like Riccars and its a pity we don't get them in the UK.


 


Is the Jiffy Maid made in PRC by any chance? What about the Riccar range? HooverCandy make most of their vacs in PRC now and the blue model above is also made in PRC.

 

[ralph123]

I wonder if Costco will add the new models to their line of Fuller brush vacuums?

So Tom - did you have any influence on the bagless design?

Was also wondering if Tacony might have any plans for a water filtration vacuum in the future. Given your excitement over the new Sirena, will it have any influence on the designers at Tacony that visit the museum?

http://www.costco.com/all-vacuums.html

 

[dysonman1]

Fuller Brush vacuums are not made in the USA. While I did get five more than a year ago to judge durability, I did not have any influence in the design. It's a 'sourced product' as are all Fuller Brush vacuums. We used the new Jiffy Maid a LOT around the factory and found it to be a quite satisfactory bagless multi-cyclonic upright that seems to be quite durable as well.

Simplicity and Riccar uprights are made in the USA as are the full sized canisters.

 

[madabouthoovers]

I see, so Fuller Brush are like a subsidiary of Tacony, as are Simplicity and Riccar, but it seems that Fuller Brush are the budget brand of Tacony. Forgive my ignorance, I am English and not that familiar with Tacony, but always interested to learn about other manufacturers.


Its like an analogy with TTI who use Hoover as the brand name in USA but Vax in the UK, hence the Hoover Windtunnel Air in the USA is the same as the Vax Mach Air in the UK.


 


I take it Tacony have no plans to ever export any of their products to the UK or Europe?

 

[sebo_fan]

Well the Hoover Turbo Power isn't a Hoover design - you are aware that it was first sold as a Clean Maxx brand name? Sold in Germany under the name of the Clean Maxx Z8.

 

[joshdonnell]

Fuller brush

None of the Fuller brush vacuums are made in the us?

 

[dysonman1]

The Fuller Brush vacuum cleaners are sold by Tacony, through different venues. The Fuller Brush Company private labels a line of cleaning products under the Riccar and Simplicity brand names as well, so it's a win-win for both companies. CleanMax is a Tacony brand name, used on a line of sourced (not US made) commercial vacuums, as well as a line of CleanMax ultralight commercial uprights (which ARE made in the USA).

Fuller Brush vacuums are an 'open' line, meaning vac shops who are not Simplicity or Riccar dealers can also order and sell Fuller Brush products. This machine is an opportunity for vac shops to have a bagless upright of decent quality, with easily obtainable repair parts, that's also easy to repair if needed. It really is a good upright at cleaning the carpets, and has great edge cleaning as well. There are many features to like - especially at its price point.

Simplicity, Riccar, and Maytag vacuums are a 'protected' line. In the case of Simplicity and Riccar vacuums, the dealer agrees to certain things with Tacony Corporation in order to carry those products - like not selling them on the internet, and maintaining a minimum selling price. This protects all the dealers, and makes carrying the line profitable and desirable. Maytag vacuums will also (in addition to Riccar and Simplicity dealers) be sold in appliance stores (in the USA we have "Maytag Stores" which carry the full Maytag line of major appliances). The vacuum cleaner should be displayed along with the dishwashers and washing machines.

The Fuller Brush upright is Tacony's first bagless upright cleaner. While it's not made in the USA, it does represent a break-through in two ways. Tacony dealers far and wide believe bagged vacuums are better than bagless. But they lose sales to the person who only wants bagless. It's now possible to say "Yes, I do carry bagless vacuums, let me show you one". If the customer is open to bagged vacuums, the dealer then shows and compares them - and hopefully sells the customer the best machine for that particular situation.

I'm very excited about being able to present the entire Fuller Brush lineup of vacuums. The Electric Broom is by far the best electric broom I've ever used. I actually have one of the bagless Fuller uprights in the museum that has been used for more than 8 months to clean the offices in the factory, as well as all the entrance mats. Hard use, 5 days a week. I'm proud of its ability to maintain performance and I'm satisfied as to its durability (consistent with its price). So I'm excited about the machine.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Thanks for that explanation of how things work over there. The one problem I can see with this is that if Americans are so demanding of bagless vacs as the English are, then surely the sales of Riccar bagged vacs are going to suffer as they are much more expensive to buy than the cheaper Fuller Brush bagless upright.


The Jiffy maid works on multi-cyclones if its like the Hoover Turbopower, and I and my parents both have a Turbopower multicyclonic - They have had no problems with it and the filtration is as good as any Dyson, in that the top bin filter needs only infrequent washing , and theirs still has the original belt on it after 18 months of use.


I suppose that if the customer wants a bagless vac and is going to walk out without buying anything assuming you aren't allowed to sell anything other than Tacony products, then the Jiffy Maid is a good value choice that wont need endless filter maintenance.


I notice on the Fuller Brush Website they are asking £279.99 for the Jiffy Maid though, and $130 for the Spiffy Maid which has no revolving brush and single cone filtration.


 

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http://fullerbrushvacuums.com/fuller-brush-jiffy-maid-bagless-vacuum

 

[madabouthoovers]

Just been looking at the Morphy Richards UK website, they have the equivalent of the Jiffy Maid currently for sale in the UK for £75 ($120) which is a very good price


 


Just read that Morphy Richards is owned by Glen Dimplex. I also note that Tacony own Truvox cleaning products based here in the UK, and that Lindhaus Vacs are part of Truvox so its quite a big company. I've learnt a few things about Tacony tonight, but still don't know whose design is the Jiffy Maid?  

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http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/pro...oses-Suction-Family-Pets-Bagless-Upright.html

 

[bagintheback]

Tom, does Tacony have any interest in building their own bagless upright? When you first told us Tacony was releasing a bagless I thought it was going to be more like a Riccar/Simplicty with a metal parts and a high-end motor. Something like that could really change the market. 

 

[dysonman1]

Like any other company, Tacony builds prototypes of new models. But unlike companies what sell through big box stores, Tacony's "customer" is the vac shop. If the vac shops are not willing to buy a Riccar or Simplicity bagless upright (with all high quality metal parts), then Tacony sees no reason to build them. The build what their customers will buy. The huge bias that vac shops have against bagless is, quite simply, they don't want to give up the profit from bags. Hence the reason Miele doesn't make a bagless, even though they designed and patented one.

 

[sebo_fan]

I did mention in the reply 3 that the Fuller bagless upright is the one by Morphy Richards...also Glen & Dimplex have owned MR for 28 years now, but their floorcare range has always had Goblin branded vacuums and Morphy Richards vacuums, with the Goblin name slowly being phased out, sadly.

The stick vac could be any generic PRC product though. It might be available from another brand in the UK.