My DC41 MK2. I must be mad!

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oliveoiltinfoil

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All of this EU regulation on vacuum cleaners topic is genuinely shaking up the industry for the first time in over 20 years, previously done by Dyson, arguably.

I am in no position to really comment on Dyson models built within the last 5 years or so as, I haven't owned one. I did have a DC24 about 2 years ago, which to be honest, wasn't too bad. Had quite good suction and relatively good agitation and a very nice set of tools, but is really suited for people with small homes and a lot of money to spend on a small cleaner - I thought it was a bit over priced, but this is Dyson we are talking about, a lot of his products are.

Browsing through argos.co.uk as I usually do quite often, especially since these regulations, looking at what new vacuums are appearing, and I noticed the DC41 MK2 has been reduced to £319.99. I had a £10 argos voucher which needed to be used by next week. I work from home and had nothing to do today so I went to my local argos shop to pick it up, surprisingly, it was in stock.

So I now have a brand new Dyson to add to my collection 4 vacuums (I know, not a lot at all really). All in all, I am very impressed with this machine. You can see Dyson's views and opinions very apparent in the literature supplied with every one of these models. Hahah!

I can also confirm the specifications on this vaccum. It is 700 watts, ratted at 198 air watts, which is very impressive, and represents a very efficient motor.

The DC41 MK2 has this new 700 watt motor, along with a redesigned floor head, which dyson claim is 75% more powerful. It certainly feels powerful and makes a lovely low pitched hum, similar to a sebo felix or miele s7's brush bar motor. It agitates the carpets incredibly well, and the head is very much sealed onto the carpets. I thought the active baseplate was a bit of a novelty, but it must be working, as going from low to high piled carpets, there is no change in how much effort is needed to push and pull the vacuum. This model also has something I have never seen before. As you can see in the picture, it has a slider bar which raises or lowers a rubber lip, which controls the seal of suction at the head. A very cleaver idea as this means light weight rugs you can raise the lip so there is suction leak so it doesn't stick as much, and on thick piled heavy rugs and carpets, lower it to create a good seal.

The brush bar is massively improved on the DC41, as they left some horrible streaks of dirt on the carpet due to sparse brushes and plastic spacers, whatever they are. This only leaves one, quite large one however which I think is the belt drive. It is very easy to push and pull as the brush bar pulls it forward, and the machine is well weighted and the head has micro rollers which assist the manoeuvrability.

The ball takes some getting used to, especially after using something like a sebo felix. The ball makes for tighter turns, but requires more effort to steer, although this is getting better with use, as I am guessing the rubber seals and wheels are wearing in. Surpassingly, it gets under beds and furniture better than I thought, but of course doesn't go completely under.

The suction is very good indeed. It really is. You would never know this is 700 watt, or any different to a normal dc41 with a 1400 motor. There is supposedly 57 watts difference, with the mk2 having the disadvantage, but I cant imagine it makes that big of a difference. It is very effective at carpet cleaning. Hard floor cleaning with this is brilliant. It doesn't stick to the floor as you can raise the lip however much you want, meaning larger dirt and debris is collected rather than pushed around. Edge to edge cleaning is very good on both sides.

The tangle-free turbine head, again I thought was a novelty, but it is the east turbo hand tool I have ever used. It is amazing, and vibrates anything you are cleaning, something I have never experienced. The brushes are quite stiff, it grooms the carpet and of course, doesn't get tangled in hairs. It also floats and adjusts to contours in sofas and cushions.

Surprisingly, a lot of the parts on this vacuum are quite substantial. The cable is thicker than it is on a lot of vacuums, yet the rubber is very soft and flexible. Will you just look at the plug? Beautifully deigned and is worth a snapshot! The whole vacuum I think is quite attractive. It isn't beautiful like an old Hoover or Kirby, but it looks futuristic, and I haven't found any hindrances in the practicality. It is very easy to use.

It has no pedal to recline it as a lot of us know, instead works on pressure. It is easier than I thought to use. You can wheel it around, but you have to lean it back and try not to put much pressure on the handle to do this. Most of the time it works. Other times, it is tricky to make sure it is clicked in the upright position. Probably my biggest grumble with this vacuum so far.

Another thing worth mentioning is the heat pollution, if you could call it that, or the lack of. It appears these lower powered motors emit much less heat than your 1,400 - 2,000 watt motors. The air which comes out is barley warm. It is also very quite, doesn't scream. It is a very pleasant sound.

The dirt bin is relatively large at 2.1 litres, and this has collected a lot of dirt. I vacuumed right through two days ago with a sebo felix, yet the dyson has still pulled out a considerable amount of debris, and very fine dust. The bins has very good rubber seals and not a spec of dust has leaked from the bin.

Filtration quality is second to none. I honestly haven't touched the filter in terms of washing it. I just pulled it out after 1 hour and 15 minutes usage. Not a spec of dust. Those cyclones are really doing their job. The HEPA filter also doesn't have any carbon dust on it. I wouldn't expect too much after just over an hours use, but on some other vacuums, carbon dust would have already settled on the post motor filters. Could this also be to do with the lower wattage ?

There is also a flap cover near the motor, which you can use to get any blockages out.

The build quality is better than I expected. After reading various reports and opinions from people claiming they are flimsy and fragile, I tend to somewhat disagree. The design of this vacuum is forgiving. I am in the motor trade, as was my father for some 50 years, and the materials such as ABS tend to appear flimsy, but that is done deliberately so it absorbs energy. Case in point, the cable storage plastic "lugs" on the back of the machine bend and flex a lot, but they will not brake. I have tried. There is no white stress marks either, like there would be on a cheaper plastic. I have nod doubt that some of these parts could and have broken on dysons, but they are much better designed and made than I thought.

I do love this machine, but I wouldn't pay over £400 for one. £320 seems a reasonable price. Get one at the price point or lower and it is very worth while.

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Looks very nice!

Looks like this model is superior to both the original DC41, and the US DC65 (which was improved in several ways over its predecessor). I think I'd prefer this machine over the DC65. Like the DC41, the DC65 leaves strange brushbar marks (asymmetrical) on the carpeting, but they both do a very good job. The DC65 doesn't glue itself to hard flooring like the DC41. I'd like to see how that red adjustment slider works, as well.

A big part of the reason why newer Dysons have such fantastic filtration is the shroud in the bin. Instead of having large holes, it's now a mesh screen, so only very fine dust has an opportunity to make it into the cyclones. My Dyson DC59 stick vac has a similar shroud and setup, and the filter is still nearly spotless after 6 months of regular use. The mesh shroud, however, does have more dirt cling to it than the old style. I find myself having to disassemble the dirt cup, and clean the screen more often than I did on my DC35.

Thanks for the nice pics! I've been curious about this model. Dyson's methods of acknowledging the new energy laws have been really funny. Could you possibly post a picture of the underside of the cleaner head?
 
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Yes, you are right! I noticed that mesh grill instead of the holes. Also, those cyclones must have something to do with it as well. A good filtration quality is so much more than just stuffing cyclones in the dust bin. They have to be a certain height, diameter and depth, and I imagine Dyson engineers are constantly improving and enhancing these properties. There is a picture of underneath the floor head, exposing the brush bar. Thought I uploaded it, but here it is.

I just gave my car a quick vacuum with the dc41mk2 with the tangle-free turbine tool and I am even more in love with it and the vacuum. The Dyson is very stable and you can wiggle the hose as much as you want and it doesn't tip over. Also the turbine tool really does mould to the curves and contours of a car interior. I have an Audi A6, so it isn't a small car. I did it all in about 8 minutes. Very good. I imagine the car cleaning kit helps you get into the crevices etc easier.

@suckolux - Thank you. I am sure you are referring to the vacuum :P

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Yes, it still has an active baseplate which, as I said, works very well. The rubber lip at the front you raise if it is still hard to push, because the suction seal is so good, raise the lip breaks the seal so it is easier to push, also good for large debris on carpets and hard flooring.
 
You're not mad, the only thing that justifies this purchase is the $10 voucher! 
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I'm glad to see Dyson has improved it's vacuums, my DC07 has been heartache since day one! However,I can picture the handle-release failing easily! 
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Nice overview oliveoiltinfoil and great pictures too of the DC41 MK2. Looks a nice vacuum cleaner and some great improvements over the original DC41. I bet the 700 watt motor is a nice welcome no high pitch motor noise anymore. Seems more powerful than the DC50 too although that has a 650 watt motor if I'm correct. I see there is only one strip of brush turfs along the brush bars each side of the motor pulley like the DC40 had! Sounds like it grooms well though especially if that's what it pulled from your carpets having previously used your SEBO Felix. Does the rubber seal strip go all the way around the head/soleplate? Looks like it does from your picture.

Last Dyson I purchased was the DC15 Ball in 2005! I wouldn't want to use this Dyson Ball on my tiled floors as it would scratch it. That's what I liked about the DC15 the small rollers on the metal soleplate where rubber and so was the stripes around the main ball. These 3rd gran ball Dyson's, it all hard plastic on the main ball and the small rollers on the soleplate which to me would scratch or could scratch hard floors.

Does anyone know if Dyson has updated the DC40 like this DC41 MK2, lower watt motor updated brush bar and soleplate? Just wondered.
 
Looking on Curry's website Dyson has updated the DC50 2015 model now has an 850 watt motor compared to the original one which Curry's is still selling still online which had a 700 watt motor. I noticed the DC40 2015 model and that has a 700 watt motor like the DC41 MK2.

Seems to be a theme with these new Eco models using 700 watt motors. Suppose that is due to allow for any additional motor used to power the brush bar or power head.
 
Very nice detailed review. Thank you, I am considering the DC41 mk2 this year, if not next year, it's what I really admire :) though I have just purchased an ex condition DC04 Absolute+ for the bargain price of £20, so will need to get rid of some vacs to make room again.
I hope you will benefit from using the Dyson DC41 MK2 vacuum for over five years. Please keep us updated if this machine fails or continues to go strong :)
Kind Regards
 
Thanks for an informative review.

The DC41 MK2 is rated at 100 air watts not 198. I remember Dysons specs for the DC24 was 120 air watts and then suddenly after a few years it then said 100 air watts. The DC41 Mk2 Still very expensive for what it is. I'm very intruiged by what Vax has to offer and Sebo.
 
It really is a lovely vacuum, and this is from someone who knows what a good run of the mill vacuum is. I have had many and this is right up there, in terms of ease of use more than anything.

The performance is just so good. Yes, it is only one strip of bristles, but they are very effective, and the brush spins incredibly fast, like you really notice it. The head jolts as you turn it on. There is about a 1 second delay form when you recline it to the brushmotor spinning, and when it does, you can feel the head jolting through the handle. It also has weights inside it which you can see, which further helps with the agitation. It is just a very effective vacuum. The tangle-free turbine is just epic. You have to sue it to understand. Very easy to use. If this is what Dyson has in store for us from now on, they really have come on leaps and bounds in terms of performance. Put it this way, this dyson feels like its worth the money.

Yes madaboutsebo, Dyson have updated all their model to meet the EU regulation, including the DC40, which looks like they have fitted it which looks like they have fitted it with a similar head to this, as well as increasing the air watts on the dc50 by 20 to 160.


http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2685069.htm
 
When I ordered mine I asked lots and lots of questions about it any said it's definitely 198aw when I was talking to the Man said been having lots of problems with their website no things on there that shouldn't be and are wrong said Summerbridge turn something isn't that it should say cleans better than any other vacuum and what is the suction of any other upright vacuum at the clean head and 198aw and in the Argos catalogue it says as 160 what's at the head can't be just 100. And also I took pictures of the website when it was first available. It is the best backing cleaner I've ever had is expensive but definitely worth the money hope you enjoy yours and you have lots of life out of it
 
Hahah! "Use" it of course ;) I am always doing that typo. Seriously though, you have to sort of see it to believe it.

This is an example of the agitation done by this kid who has a YouTube channel. I don't think much of his actions in the way he treats the vacuums, goes backwards and forwards far too quickly, but it gives you an idea of what this machine is like.





 
Cool, I like the video, I think it was nice of the uploader of the vid to also show us the latest Dyson because we always wonder what they are like :)
Oliveoiltinfoil, does your DC41 actually beat the carpet?
 
I must get one, I have a dc41 ,42( 40) and dc51(50) The old 41 is great the suction is incredible  . I have never seen a clean air vacuum that sticks to the floor like it does, But that's my only issue with the old 41, Its so powerful it sticks to loose carpets and hardflooring like glue. That new cleaner head looks like it will do the trick. 


 


I wonder if we will get it in SA this time
 
@parwaz - There are no beater bars as such, but it does "beat" the carpet. It shakes the dirt and it bounces around like I have never seen on any vacuum to be honest, coupled with the way it sticks to the carpet, it really does deep clean. It gives any Miele or Sebo a run for its money for carpet performance, and hardfloor cleaning, it is certainly the best I have used. It doesn't scratch or leave any marks either, as although the ball is made of plastic, it is polycarbonate and doesn't scratch the floor.

@gsheen - Yes. The rubber lip/seal really does help. When you have it on "max", it lowers the lip to create a tight suction seal, great for carpets, but if you put it on hard flooring with that seal down, you can NOT move it and it actually engages the suction release valve. You have to raise the lip to break the suction seal, it Is that effective. It also means large chunks of dirt like Mr Thors cat litter fits underneath the head. This also works for if you have a low piled carpet and it is hard to push, or if the carpet has large debris.

It is an exceptionally well engineered vacuum and I am increasingly liking it more and more. Dyson really have sorted out the performance differences. I still cant get over how much suction power it has for less than 700 watt.
 

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