sebo_fan
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So, what do you think - given that the S2 series uses the same dust bag as the S5. What's your thoughts? Is the S5 automatically better?
Miele S2 Versus Miele S5
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Hi,
I just checked this out -- in the U.S. Miele is trying to peddle, roughly, eighteen models that are canisters. To that I say -- c'mon already!
In my opinion, S2s are superfluous additions to Miele's line and the effort is insulting to the whit's worth of intelligence I have left as I approach dotage. Since two participants are usually needed to play a game -- and that's what this is -- what I think is that the public should give them the finger on this one. Unfortunately, not all my faculties have left me and I know perfectly well people won't do that just for the sake of saying, "Oh, I own a Miele."
Miele as in, "Oh, we can do that too," is merely trying to make and maintain a seemingly more competitive line to run against other more affordable canisters made by makers that have had affordability in mind since the day they started. Same size bag (and same size consumable cost) is a little silly.
Despite the amount of money spent, I have no interest in a vacuum beyond 150 bucks that doesn't allow me the option to at least add on a PN, etc., if I so desire. The S5s are not behemoths should suffice just about anywhere. If someone doesn't like it they should look for a smaller, cheaper brand which they will probably find does the same job as good or well as Miele. The deal would be far more worth the money than they'll be expected to lay out merely for a "name."
This practice of flooding the market with countless models with no significant/useful variance between is confusing almost to the point of being annoying due to the needlessness of it and also makes me begin to wonder at the quality of what's being sold.
I hate rants about the way things used to be as it's a new day -- even if the malarkey is still the same -- but I like the idea of no more than three models of anything. Let them go for a "deluxe" top-of-the-line offering with all the bells and whistles they can tag on, then a mid-line version that doesn't carry everything but allows for adding options if so desired. And then finally, a bare-bones "economy" model.
Some refer to attempting to be all things to all people as "doing business." I call it just plain old whoring.
Hi,
I just checked this out -- in the U.S. Miele is trying to peddle, roughly, eighteen models that are canisters. To that I say -- c'mon already!
In my opinion, S2s are superfluous additions to Miele's line and the effort is insulting to the whit's worth of intelligence I have left as I approach dotage. Since two participants are usually needed to play a game -- and that's what this is -- what I think is that the public should give them the finger on this one. Unfortunately, not all my faculties have left me and I know perfectly well people won't do that just for the sake of saying, "Oh, I own a Miele."
Miele as in, "Oh, we can do that too," is merely trying to make and maintain a seemingly more competitive line to run against other more affordable canisters made by makers that have had affordability in mind since the day they started. Same size bag (and same size consumable cost) is a little silly.
Despite the amount of money spent, I have no interest in a vacuum beyond 150 bucks that doesn't allow me the option to at least add on a PN, etc., if I so desire. The S5s are not behemoths should suffice just about anywhere. If someone doesn't like it they should look for a smaller, cheaper brand which they will probably find does the same job as good or well as Miele. The deal would be far more worth the money than they'll be expected to lay out merely for a "name."
This practice of flooding the market with countless models with no significant/useful variance between is confusing almost to the point of being annoying due to the needlessness of it and also makes me begin to wonder at the quality of what's being sold.
I hate rants about the way things used to be as it's a new day -- even if the malarkey is still the same -- but I like the idea of no more than three models of anything. Let them go for a "deluxe" top-of-the-line offering with all the bells and whistles they can tag on, then a mid-line version that doesn't carry everything but allows for adding options if so desired. And then finally, a bare-bones "economy" model.
Some refer to attempting to be all things to all people as "doing business." I call it just plain old whoring.
I agree...
I'm of the mind that a vacuum company should have somewhere around 5 well-defined, well positioned products in, let's say, their canister line. Any more and it becomes way too confusing for the consumer.
I don't want to spend an afternoon dedicated to educating myself on the little ins and outs of 18 models of one manufacturer's canister offerings. I want to look on that sheet, clearly understand what the differences are, and know that the item I purchased isn't edged out just a little bit by that other vac that I didn't know was better for my needs because the info got lost and confused in a sea of nitpicky details and choices that I, as a consumer, am expected to manage. Just give me 5 well-defined choices and one of those should suit me.
Anyway, I feel that way about a lot of companies that put out way to many variations of their product.
I'm of the mind that a vacuum company should have somewhere around 5 well-defined, well positioned products in, let's say, their canister line. Any more and it becomes way too confusing for the consumer.
I don't want to spend an afternoon dedicated to educating myself on the little ins and outs of 18 models of one manufacturer's canister offerings. I want to look on that sheet, clearly understand what the differences are, and know that the item I purchased isn't edged out just a little bit by that other vac that I didn't know was better for my needs because the info got lost and confused in a sea of nitpicky details and choices that I, as a consumer, am expected to manage. Just give me 5 well-defined choices and one of those should suit me.
Anyway, I feel that way about a lot of companies that put out way to many variations of their product.
williamr1248
Well-known member
Miele S2 versus Miele S5
Venson,
You could not have said it better! I was thinking the SAME thing. Why have so many different machines that are JUST the same.
It is kind of an insult to my thinking. I have noticed even the dealers on You Tube have difficulty trying to explain all the different colors,lines and features. It is very confusing. This is one reason I have not bought a Miele along with the high cost of bags,filters. I just don't like the idea of paying a high price to store dirt and filth in the closet from week to week. I sure don't "save" my other household garbage in the closet and buy expensive garbage bags to keep the odor down.
Do some you remember when Hoover used to have 2 good uprights (for example the Hoover Convertibles) and a good canister. Then they started making them in all colors and for all different companies and the more models they had,the more they were the same machine. As the years went by they kept removing the quality and name until there was nothing left.
Electrolux took a different route. They had the G or 1205 and if could not afford that machine you bought an L. Only 2 models.
Venson,
You could not have said it better! I was thinking the SAME thing. Why have so many different machines that are JUST the same.
It is kind of an insult to my thinking. I have noticed even the dealers on You Tube have difficulty trying to explain all the different colors,lines and features. It is very confusing. This is one reason I have not bought a Miele along with the high cost of bags,filters. I just don't like the idea of paying a high price to store dirt and filth in the closet from week to week. I sure don't "save" my other household garbage in the closet and buy expensive garbage bags to keep the odor down.
Do some you remember when Hoover used to have 2 good uprights (for example the Hoover Convertibles) and a good canister. Then they started making them in all colors and for all different companies and the more models they had,the more they were the same machine. As the years went by they kept removing the quality and name until there was nothing left.
Electrolux took a different route. They had the G or 1205 and if could not afford that machine you bought an L. Only 2 models.
joshdonnell
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Well
Id rather store the filth then mess with a water bucket. When you buy a water vacuum all your really getting is a bucket with a motor really. I could do better .
Id rather store the filth then mess with a water bucket. When you buy a water vacuum all your really getting is a bucket with a motor really. I could do better .
pr-21
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S2 VsS5 difference
The main difference is the S2's are not a sealed system, whereas the S5's, S6's and S7's are. Rubber bumbers are also missing.....Supposedly these were made as entry level vacuums for people who could not afford more expensive Miele's.
Bud Mattingly
PR-21
The main difference is the S2's are not a sealed system, whereas the S5's, S6's and S7's are. Rubber bumbers are also missing.....Supposedly these were made as entry level vacuums for people who could not afford more expensive Miele's.
Bud Mattingly
PR-21
suckolux
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sounds correct to me Bud
@pr-21 . . .
Hi Bud,
Thanks for the info. I feel almost forced to send the company a letter of thanks for leaving the wheels on.
However, if the plan was as you say, I think they've gone wrong and I also think that the company is sullying the name it's obviously worked quite a while to make for itself. Miele has long made its fortune by offering specialty. At least, that's what I went to Miele to buy. Fail to offer that, then why would I buy? I can get no seals, no bumpers plus none of nothing else for a hundred bucks, and even less, elsewhere.
Venson
Hi Bud,
Thanks for the info. I feel almost forced to send the company a letter of thanks for leaving the wheels on.
However, if the plan was as you say, I think they've gone wrong and I also think that the company is sullying the name it's obviously worked quite a while to make for itself. Miele has long made its fortune by offering specialty. At least, that's what I went to Miele to buy. Fail to offer that, then why would I buy? I can get no seals, no bumpers plus none of nothing else for a hundred bucks, and even less, elsewhere.
Venson
piano_god
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While the S2 uses the GN bag shared with the S5, the bag chamber will not allow the bag to inflate to its full potential. And, as Bud mentioned, the S2 is not a sealed system. Also, the S2 shares the same motor with the S6 and S7 machines, while the S5 employs a larger motor. For the same price point as the S2, the S6 is a better constructed machine and it's sealed. Its only downfall is the use of the smaller FJM bag...
No matter what type of vacuum (paper bagged, reusable cloth bag, melt blown polypropylene bagged, filtered bagless, cylconic bagless and water-filtered) some form of filth will always remain in the machine and in its filters. We must not forget the attachments and hose which will also accumulate filth, even after one use.
As for vacuums used in the most demanding of situations, those used for dry hazardous material recovery or in cleanroom environments, they all share one similarity - <span style="text-decoration: underline;">they're bagged...</span>
No matter what type of vacuum (paper bagged, reusable cloth bag, melt blown polypropylene bagged, filtered bagless, cylconic bagless and water-filtered) some form of filth will always remain in the machine and in its filters. We must not forget the attachments and hose which will also accumulate filth, even after one use.
As for vacuums used in the most demanding of situations, those used for dry hazardous material recovery or in cleanroom environments, they all share one similarity - <span style="text-decoration: underline;">they're bagged...</span>
aeoliandave
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I, too, could not understand Miele risking it's good name by entering into the low end market to artificially increase sales.
But then I am not one of the avaricious stakeholders of Miele Corp seeking to rape profits in this disastrous doomed from the start Globalization Economy model that has plunged our world into the sorry state it is now in...until I delved into the situation a mite bit deeper
"Review - Miele S2 Series Econo Line Canister Vacuums
The Miele S2 Economy line offers many features found in the S6 & S5 series units at an economical price point meant to attract those looking for an entry level vacuum cleaner. Missing from the Miele S2 Contour, Miele S2 Momentum and Miele S2 Continuum are the sealed body and bag compartments. This is vital to ensuring true sealed HEPA filtration which cannot be offered on the S2 models. The Miele S6 and Miele S5 canister models also offer more robust plastics to ensure durability and performance."
This last statement pretty much asserts that Miele believes - and trusts - that the bumperless thin plastic carcases will fail quickly and perhaps they believe that this will drive the majority of owners to upgrade? I don't think so...
It would not surprise me to learn that Miele has sub-contracted the manufacture of the S2 to the PRC.
A long standing, successful and well-respected Vacuum Cleaner Dealership in London Ontario Canada is McHardy Vacuum; they pull no punches comparing the S2 to the rest of the Miele line-up.
Entry level? The S2 Contour retails for $499.99 at Sears Canada while Costco has it listed at $399.
Canadian Tire has the S2 Momentum for $599.99 while Future Shop will sell you either the Contour or the Momentum for the above prices.
From a quick Canadian survey it would appear that the S2 is not available at Miele vacuum Shops but being dumped at the Big Box stores here.
I smack my forehead at the gullibility of the uneducated consumer.
I also noticed that in Canada the Dealership's Contour and Momentum models are in fact the superior S4. Some hapless folks will be confused by the same model names and flock to the Big Box for a perceived 'deal'. McHardy does indeed guarantee to match any other price but since they don't sell the S2...well, Miele is doing legitimate shops a dis-service duplicating the model name on two decidedly different quality machines. Meile Canada will say it is not competeing with Vacuum Shops but they are engaging in deception through mis-direction.
This blog comment pretty much sums up the important differences -
"needs to be a simple, reliable work horse,store compactly, do its job well. would like on-board storage. do not want electric wand/telescope. will buy parquet floor attachment. <span id="cleanprint_content"> </span>
miele- s2 Olympus- cheapest, lightest while using the largest bag. i really thought this was a perfect first vacuum but it lacks on-board storage and does not store upright/compactly. made in china? skimped on finish and uses lesser quality attachments, uses the largest bag but is it able to fill it up within the compact canister?
s5 ariel or pisces- basic s5 models. hepa filter, non electric wand, uses largest bag and stores compactly. finish and quality of materials is better than the s2 class, but is it more than $200 better quality/materials vs the olympus?
skipping the s4 group b/c they use a smaller bag but is midsize?
The Public at large is not as universally stoopid as Miele could hope!
Dave
http://www.mchardyvac.com/brands/Miele.html
But then I am not one of the avaricious stakeholders of Miele Corp seeking to rape profits in this disastrous doomed from the start Globalization Economy model that has plunged our world into the sorry state it is now in...until I delved into the situation a mite bit deeper
"Review - Miele S2 Series Econo Line Canister Vacuums
The Miele S2 Economy line offers many features found in the S6 & S5 series units at an economical price point meant to attract those looking for an entry level vacuum cleaner. Missing from the Miele S2 Contour, Miele S2 Momentum and Miele S2 Continuum are the sealed body and bag compartments. This is vital to ensuring true sealed HEPA filtration which cannot be offered on the S2 models. The Miele S6 and Miele S5 canister models also offer more robust plastics to ensure durability and performance."
This last statement pretty much asserts that Miele believes - and trusts - that the bumperless thin plastic carcases will fail quickly and perhaps they believe that this will drive the majority of owners to upgrade? I don't think so...
It would not surprise me to learn that Miele has sub-contracted the manufacture of the S2 to the PRC.
A long standing, successful and well-respected Vacuum Cleaner Dealership in London Ontario Canada is McHardy Vacuum; they pull no punches comparing the S2 to the rest of the Miele line-up.
Entry level? The S2 Contour retails for $499.99 at Sears Canada while Costco has it listed at $399.
Canadian Tire has the S2 Momentum for $599.99 while Future Shop will sell you either the Contour or the Momentum for the above prices.
From a quick Canadian survey it would appear that the S2 is not available at Miele vacuum Shops but being dumped at the Big Box stores here.
I smack my forehead at the gullibility of the uneducated consumer.
I also noticed that in Canada the Dealership's Contour and Momentum models are in fact the superior S4. Some hapless folks will be confused by the same model names and flock to the Big Box for a perceived 'deal'. McHardy does indeed guarantee to match any other price but since they don't sell the S2...well, Miele is doing legitimate shops a dis-service duplicating the model name on two decidedly different quality machines. Meile Canada will say it is not competeing with Vacuum Shops but they are engaging in deception through mis-direction.
This blog comment pretty much sums up the important differences -
"needs to be a simple, reliable work horse,store compactly, do its job well. would like on-board storage. do not want electric wand/telescope. will buy parquet floor attachment. <span id="cleanprint_content"> </span>
miele- s2 Olympus- cheapest, lightest while using the largest bag. i really thought this was a perfect first vacuum but it lacks on-board storage and does not store upright/compactly. made in china? skimped on finish and uses lesser quality attachments, uses the largest bag but is it able to fill it up within the compact canister?
s5 ariel or pisces- basic s5 models. hepa filter, non electric wand, uses largest bag and stores compactly. finish and quality of materials is better than the s2 class, but is it more than $200 better quality/materials vs the olympus?
skipping the s4 group b/c they use a smaller bag but is midsize?
The Public at large is not as universally stoopid as Miele could hope!
Dave
http://www.mchardyvac.com/brands/Miele.html
williamr1248
Well-known member
Miele S2 versus Miele S5
Bud
I agree with you that does seem to be the difference of not having the sealed system. The problem I see with this route is that the whole concept of buying a Miele was to get a very good filtering,quiet machine with unique top of the line features. I can go to Walmart and buy a cheap plastic canister off the shelf.
It would be like BMW building a car and then removing everything that makes it a BMW.
Bud
I agree with you that does seem to be the difference of not having the sealed system. The problem I see with this route is that the whole concept of buying a Miele was to get a very good filtering,quiet machine with unique top of the line features. I can go to Walmart and buy a cheap plastic canister off the shelf.
It would be like BMW building a car and then removing everything that makes it a BMW.
sebo_fan
Well-known member
Thank you so far for the replies. My honest opinion:
The S2 was designed to offer buyers on a budget, a cut price S5 - but I never really thought the S2 should ever have been released - not when the S4 and now, S6 is still the smaller canister in the family and relies on the smaller FJM bags, which also competes on capacity with Bosch, Sebo, Hoover et al. The same FJM in the S4 and S6 measure 3.5 litres whereas the older S300, S500 et al series allows a bigger capacity to 4 litres - and gave buyers the premium feel without sacrificing Miele "standard" features.
In the UK for example, before the S2 came to market, Miele solely relied on their S281, S371, S381 (shown below), a hardy, heavy robust vacuum cleaner that kept the tools inside and relied heavily on older model design. I had that one for many years before a friend in need, needed a vacuum to replace her long standing 1990's S571, a model that I already owned and so we swapped over, with minor repair to mouldings and pedal replacements I did myself. I like the older Miele models - everything is on board instead of flexible, silly plastic holders that clip to the hose end, sit externally and whether they are designed to lock in by pushing them far enough, they're still liable to fall off when or if the vacuum cleaner knocks against a skirting board or a wall or whatever.
I don't know what the situation is in the U.S where the S2 is concerned - but against the S500, S300, S4, S6 and S5 series, the S2 budget range comes with far shorter suction pipes, and they're not telescopic height adjustable - and I initially thought they were all the same. So when it comes to recommending, I stay clear of the S2 - for the cost prices that start on average at £149-00 against the normal £199 (John Lewis are currently doing a special discount deal at £149 currently for the bas S5211), you're getting a bit more with "standard features," like tools that can be safely hidden away, slightly longer telescopic "one piece" suction pipes that extend to 2, 1 metre more on the power cable length - and uses the same dust bag.
I thought Miele were the best however until I discovered the other German brands, Bosch and Sebo. Bosch is the cheapest out of the 3 with SEBO being in the middle and Miele's endless run of non-essential canister models that change per floor head spec and colours. Sebo's attention to "actual use" could teach Miele a thing or two from lighter 500g telescopic tubing and longer hose lengths, which in effect, when in use, you've got a lighter principle when it comes to handling. If Sebo and Bosch can make telescopic height adjustable tubes that weigh less than 500g whereas the Miele tubes are unnecessarily heavier and shorter hoses against Sebo's bigger length, several of SEBO's canisters may not look good, but they have a better design generally for use. Miele's only lightweight component, for the meantime is the basic "fibreteq" suction only-pedal floor head that comes with the base S2 models but when you have heavier suction pipes for that to lock onto, it doesn't make much sense.
The downside to Bosch is that everything fits friction style, so if you haven't jammed the tools, the pipes and the floor heads on firm enough, they're liable to fall off - and taking them on/off when required to use the smaller, cheaper produced cleaning tools isn't as easy. Bosch hoses are also pretty small on length but the mains power cord lengths are usually longer than Miele.
Miele's biggest mistake is not updating their stick vacuums - and ceasing production of selling them in the UK. Other European countries seem to love the mains powered stick vacuum idea and it looks as if Miele are cost cutting for the sake of not producing a model that would give buyers more versatility as well as another upright in the range that would not inflict damage to S7 sales. The D'Art was a fantastic, if not unique idea but many of the models suffered from clogging because of the its "L" shape suction channel - plus they were all suction only models, which kind of defeated the purpose based on its general design.
The S2 was designed to offer buyers on a budget, a cut price S5 - but I never really thought the S2 should ever have been released - not when the S4 and now, S6 is still the smaller canister in the family and relies on the smaller FJM bags, which also competes on capacity with Bosch, Sebo, Hoover et al. The same FJM in the S4 and S6 measure 3.5 litres whereas the older S300, S500 et al series allows a bigger capacity to 4 litres - and gave buyers the premium feel without sacrificing Miele "standard" features.
In the UK for example, before the S2 came to market, Miele solely relied on their S281, S371, S381 (shown below), a hardy, heavy robust vacuum cleaner that kept the tools inside and relied heavily on older model design. I had that one for many years before a friend in need, needed a vacuum to replace her long standing 1990's S571, a model that I already owned and so we swapped over, with minor repair to mouldings and pedal replacements I did myself. I like the older Miele models - everything is on board instead of flexible, silly plastic holders that clip to the hose end, sit externally and whether they are designed to lock in by pushing them far enough, they're still liable to fall off when or if the vacuum cleaner knocks against a skirting board or a wall or whatever.
I don't know what the situation is in the U.S where the S2 is concerned - but against the S500, S300, S4, S6 and S5 series, the S2 budget range comes with far shorter suction pipes, and they're not telescopic height adjustable - and I initially thought they were all the same. So when it comes to recommending, I stay clear of the S2 - for the cost prices that start on average at £149-00 against the normal £199 (John Lewis are currently doing a special discount deal at £149 currently for the bas S5211), you're getting a bit more with "standard features," like tools that can be safely hidden away, slightly longer telescopic "one piece" suction pipes that extend to 2, 1 metre more on the power cable length - and uses the same dust bag.
I thought Miele were the best however until I discovered the other German brands, Bosch and Sebo. Bosch is the cheapest out of the 3 with SEBO being in the middle and Miele's endless run of non-essential canister models that change per floor head spec and colours. Sebo's attention to "actual use" could teach Miele a thing or two from lighter 500g telescopic tubing and longer hose lengths, which in effect, when in use, you've got a lighter principle when it comes to handling. If Sebo and Bosch can make telescopic height adjustable tubes that weigh less than 500g whereas the Miele tubes are unnecessarily heavier and shorter hoses against Sebo's bigger length, several of SEBO's canisters may not look good, but they have a better design generally for use. Miele's only lightweight component, for the meantime is the basic "fibreteq" suction only-pedal floor head that comes with the base S2 models but when you have heavier suction pipes for that to lock onto, it doesn't make much sense.
The downside to Bosch is that everything fits friction style, so if you haven't jammed the tools, the pipes and the floor heads on firm enough, they're liable to fall off - and taking them on/off when required to use the smaller, cheaper produced cleaning tools isn't as easy. Bosch hoses are also pretty small on length but the mains power cord lengths are usually longer than Miele.
Miele's biggest mistake is not updating their stick vacuums - and ceasing production of selling them in the UK. Other European countries seem to love the mains powered stick vacuum idea and it looks as if Miele are cost cutting for the sake of not producing a model that would give buyers more versatility as well as another upright in the range that would not inflict damage to S7 sales. The D'Art was a fantastic, if not unique idea but many of the models suffered from clogging because of the its "L" shape suction channel - plus they were all suction only models, which kind of defeated the purpose based on its general design.
piano_god
Well-known member
<span style="font-size: medium; text-decoration: underline;">Costs are reduced as the S2 is made on a fully automated assembly line at Miele's plant in Bielefeld, Germany. This vacuum is NOT made in China.</span>
<span style="font-size: small;"> </span>
The S2 is an excellent vacuum in the department store setting. While it is not sealed and has a reduction in components and less plastic, it still retains high-quality components and Miele's in-house manufactured motor. Truth be told, it's probably one of the best built vacuums available at a department store in Canada.
Canadian Tire's S2 Contour is $100.00 more because it comes standard with the STB 205-3 Turbobrush.
I own a S2 Momentum and while it is not my favorite machine out of the ten Miele's I own, it still is an excellent vacuum. While not as refined as other Miele's, it does exactly what it was designed to do and does it well.
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The whole Contour, Momentum and Continuum names through multiple lines does get rather confusing, though...
<span style="font-size: small;"> </span>
The S2 is an excellent vacuum in the department store setting. While it is not sealed and has a reduction in components and less plastic, it still retains high-quality components and Miele's in-house manufactured motor. Truth be told, it's probably one of the best built vacuums available at a department store in Canada.
Canadian Tire's S2 Contour is $100.00 more because it comes standard with the STB 205-3 Turbobrush.
I own a S2 Momentum and while it is not my favorite machine out of the ten Miele's I own, it still is an excellent vacuum. While not as refined as other Miele's, it does exactly what it was designed to do and does it well.
<hr />
The whole Contour, Momentum and Continuum names through multiple lines does get rather confusing, though...
pr-21
Well-known member
McHardy's Vacuum
Someone mentioned Mchardy's vacuum. I have bought from them and they indeed are a great vac shop. Since I live in Ohio, I knew it would void the warranty on the Miele S5 Venus and S5 Jupiter, that I purchased at separate times. Graham could not have been more helpful and made sure I knew about the warranty issue before I purchased. The shipping was fast and very reasonable. I had each one of them within a few days, which is almost unheard of when coming from Canada, due to custom checks......If I remember correctly, they used Fed Ex.
Anyway another point to this is someone mentioned so many models. Miele Canada only shows 3 S5's on their website. Maybe Venson they are going to change that in the US as well or do people in the US drive all these colors. I will admit that I bought the Jupiter from Canada partly due to the Blue Color, the Capricorn here was silver and I do not like that color at all.
One other thing, Miele came out with a smaller turbo brush that is only sold in their new car care kit for $150.00 in the US. McHardys has it for sale separately, which I am going to buy sometime soon from McHardy's. I already have the other tools in the car care kit....
Sincerely,
Bud Mattingly
Someone mentioned Mchardy's vacuum. I have bought from them and they indeed are a great vac shop. Since I live in Ohio, I knew it would void the warranty on the Miele S5 Venus and S5 Jupiter, that I purchased at separate times. Graham could not have been more helpful and made sure I knew about the warranty issue before I purchased. The shipping was fast and very reasonable. I had each one of them within a few days, which is almost unheard of when coming from Canada, due to custom checks......If I remember correctly, they used Fed Ex.
Anyway another point to this is someone mentioned so many models. Miele Canada only shows 3 S5's on their website. Maybe Venson they are going to change that in the US as well or do people in the US drive all these colors. I will admit that I bought the Jupiter from Canada partly due to the Blue Color, the Capricorn here was silver and I do not like that color at all.
One other thing, Miele came out with a smaller turbo brush that is only sold in their new car care kit for $150.00 in the US. McHardys has it for sale separately, which I am going to buy sometime soon from McHardy's. I already have the other tools in the car care kit....
Sincerely,
Bud Mattingly
@pr-21 . . .
Hi Bud,
I put in the link for the U.S. page just for Miele canister offerings below. It's way too much for the everyday consumer. They nearly repeat the same by way of the S7, an upright I love. They only need one "electronic" model and a lesser priced model with the dial. However, Miele's gone overboard on that too with six models bearing not much discernible difference other than color.
Best,
Venson
http://www.mieleusa.com/products/mo...roducts&subm=Vacuum Cleaners&thirdL=Canisters
Hi Bud,
I put in the link for the U.S. page just for Miele canister offerings below. It's way too much for the everyday consumer. They nearly repeat the same by way of the S7, an upright I love. They only need one "electronic" model and a lesser priced model with the dial. However, Miele's gone overboard on that too with six models bearing not much discernible difference other than color.
Best,
Venson
http://www.mieleusa.com/products/mo...roducts&subm=Vacuum Cleaners&thirdL=Canisters
gsheen
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One of the reasons manufacturers offer a huge line up is that not every store is going to carry every model and that some models may be exclusive to certain stores. ( especially the upmarket stores) We also have an insane amount of Miele canisters on our market some the same machine with different model no and the only difference is the colour. Its marketing that's all
sebo_fan
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Luckily the UK doesn't suffer from excess S2 models - we originally had 2 (red model and a blue model) and then exclusive colour models came in, like a all in white model (similar to the one shown on thread 173561.) and now a black/grey model. Just colour changes and price hikes!
One of the things I hate about the S2 is when you open the main door and just push the door slightly back a bit more than it will go - you'll then see the suction control dial and its panel bend inwards!!
One of the things I hate about the S2 is when you open the main door and just push the door slightly back a bit more than it will go - you'll then see the suction control dial and its panel bend inwards!!
Unless you're suffering from cancer - any vacuum with a HEPA bag even 1/4 as good as a genuine Miele bag will provide more than enough filtration. So having a German-made vacuum with a 20 year lasting motor that can take a HEPA filter and a bag that already provides WAY more than a enough filtration from the get go is a great choice and NOT going to cause instant death...
The S2 is frickin' great!! It allows for the purchase of an incredibly well built machine at a price point more entry-level buyers can afford. What's so terrible about this?
It's STILL A GERMAN MADE MIELE - no PRC here. And will last at least 20 years with proper caring use.
The S2 is frickin' great!! It allows for the purchase of an incredibly well built machine at a price point more entry-level buyers can afford. What's so terrible about this?
It's STILL A GERMAN MADE MIELE - no PRC here. And will last at least 20 years with proper caring use.
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