Kirby Ultimate Diamond Edition G7 - hose compatibility

[xaerocool]

Hi all,

Apologies if this is not the right spot but struggling to find the right answer, Kirby support won't respond either so hoping you can help.

I recently bought a Kirby Ultimate Diamond Edition vacuum in reasonable condition however i believe there are two issues with it, it makes a clicking sound when you move it around in neutral. From reading the forms here i believe this is to do with the castle shaped nut not separating completely on the cam assembly when you put the unit in neutral. The seller says this is normal but it doesn't appear to be, i know it should make a light clicking but this is more obtrusive.

Second thing is i think the accessories sold do not match the vacuum, for example the hose attachment has a model number of A210089, it physically doesn't fit, the little nub won't pass the locking mechanism. When researching A210089 online the part says its for G3 and G4 vacuums. Again the seller is saying it does fit and just to force it....

It didn't come with original packaging and it's gone to be quite a hassle to send it back (and i don't think the seller is going to make it easy) but would like confirmation on whether i'm being taken for a ride?

Any assistance is appreciated, I've added some pictures to show what i mean about the hose fitting.

Many thanks

J.

 

[louvac]

That Hose

Hey Xaero!

That hose more than likely does not belong to that Diamond model. Here is how you can tell: Although, I can't recall without looking at my machines, the G3 and G4 utilized the gasket seal in the machine end of the hose to seal against the fan casing. I am not sure which model it was where they changed it. When the change was made, the gasket was removed from the machine end of the hose and an adhesive-backed, much larger gasket was used which was now permanently adhered to the fan casing. You can't use a machine end coupler with gasket against an already gasketed fan casing. The machine end is very easy to take off and replace with the correct one. Don't force anything whatever you do.

The color of the hose should match FAIRLY closely to the machine color first off. If the color isn't close than it's the wrong hose. To remove the the machine end of the hose, heat it gently with a blow dryer or lay it out in the sun. Then lift or squeeze the curled-over ridge inside the coupler with your finger and start pushing it down out of the coupler. Then while the end is still warm insert it into the new machine end.

 

[louvac]

That Hose

Hey Xaero!

That hose more than likely does not belong to that Diamond model. Here is how you can tell: Although, I can't recall without looking at my machines, the G3 and G4 utilized the gasket seal in the machine end of the hose to seal against the fan casing. I am not sure which model it was where they changed it. When the change was made, the gasket was removed from the machine end of the hose and an adhesive-backed, much larger gasket was used which was now permanently adhered to the fan casing. You can't use a machine end coupler with gasket against an already gasketed fan casing. The machine end is very easy to take off and replace with the correct one. Don't force anything whatever you do.

The color of the hose should match FAIRLY closely to the machine color first off. If the color isn't close than it's the wrong hose. To remove the the machine end of the hose, heat it gently with a blow dryer or lay it out in the sun. Then lift or squeeze the curled-over ridge inside the coupler with your finger and start pushing it down out of the coupler. Then while the end is still warm insert it into the new machine end.

 

[blackheart]

As for the clicking

You'll most likely need to replace the bracket cam. It's a pretty easy fix and some lubrication can also be helpful

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Kirby-Bracket-Assembly-Neutral/dp/B017UR4OMK

 

[xaerocool]

Thank you very much for the response and link,

Would you have any thoughts on the clicking sound in neutral?

Many thanks

J,

 

[human]

As Blackheart said, it's a worn bracket cam. It's easy to fix if you have modest screwdriver skills. Of course, you'll need a Torx screwdriver for that model. I replaced the bracket cam on my G5 several years ago and while the noise is better, it never completely went away. My understanding is the clicking is mostly just annoying and doesn't really hurt anything. I just acquired a Kirby Gsix this week that has the click. I'll grease it at some point but otherwise just let it roll.

The link below goes to a YouTube video showing the repair being done on an Avalir. The procedure will be the same on your G7 since they're pretty much mechanically identical.

 

[louvac]

What I have been told by experts and and from what I have experienced, Kirby transmissions WILL VARY somewhat from machine to machine due to manufacturing tolerances. Some will be louder and less refined than others. That being said, it doesn't mean there is necessarily something wrong. It's just unique to that specific machine. Whatever you do, when viewing the transmission from the rear, do not grease the visible gears on the exterior area on the transmission. Though I have detected some slight lubrication on the gears themselves, it is definitely not any type of heavy grease or lube. PERHAPS some of the other Kirby gurus can comment on this issue. When I work on a machine, I will always blow out with a compressor the inside cavity and then go back and vacuum with a canister vac with strong suction. I use a make-up brush or paint brush to disturb caked on dirt or dust while holding the suction end closely near the area. Sometimes the expression, "less is more" will apply here.

By the way....Kirby does make two versions of this. It is a machine end coupler that has a mechanical slide to trigger either the typical high-speed mode or the rug nozzle speed mode. There is one model that fits G3 and G4 (with gasket in the coupler) and one model that has no gasket since the gasket is already permanently attached to the machine's fan casing. Here is a pic: