Kirby 519 question
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The lower bearing is attached to the bottom of the armature. Make sure you don't loose the washer for the bearing and the wavy washer that sits at the bottom of motor housing.
You can spray WD 40 through the bottom vents to help pop out everything.
Les
The lower bearing is attached to the bottom of the armature. Make sure you don't loose the washer for the bearing and the wavy washer that sits at the bottom of motor housing.
You can spray WD 40 through the bottom vents to help pop out everything.
Les
Karl
Karl,
If the entire front bearing plate group on your 519 needs replacement, order part no. 116884S which also includes the newer-style front bearing (116073) used on models Classic Omega 1CB and later.
~Ben
Karl,
If the entire front bearing plate group on your 519 needs replacement, order part no. 116884S which also includes the newer-style front bearing (116073) used on models Classic Omega 1CB and later.
~Ben
texaskirbyguy
Well-known member
Karl,
Remove the carbon brushes and bearing plate. Screw the fan on part way and very gently pull and rock the fan and armature. It will eventually come out, unless it is corroded in. I did have a 1CR that ended up with only the bearing still stuck in the housing. Had to use a slide hammer to get it out. On the plus side I did not have to use the puller to get the bearing off the shaft.
Let us know how it went when you get back.
Remove the carbon brushes and bearing plate. Screw the fan on part way and very gently pull and rock the fan and armature. It will eventually come out, unless it is corroded in. I did have a 1CR that ended up with only the bearing still stuck in the housing. Had to use a slide hammer to get it out. On the plus side I did not have to use the puller to get the bearing off the shaft.
Let us know how it went when you get back.
Slide hammer
You must want to smash your fingers.
I have an idea it will probably work. Get a drill if it's a hammer drill even better.
Take the fan off and the bearing plate. Put the armature in the drill and make sure you have the armature installed so it will not wobble. If you have a vice or clamp clamp down the motor housing. Slowly spin the drill and pull the drill towards you. If the bottom part of the motor housing is accessible while drilling tap the motor housing with a hammer while your spinning.
This will get the armature I out.
I have a nice heavy duty slide hammer. I smash the shiz out of my fingers.
Les
You must want to smash your fingers.
I have an idea it will probably work. Get a drill if it's a hammer drill even better.
Take the fan off and the bearing plate. Put the armature in the drill and make sure you have the armature installed so it will not wobble. If you have a vice or clamp clamp down the motor housing. Slowly spin the drill and pull the drill towards you. If the bottom part of the motor housing is accessible while drilling tap the motor housing with a hammer while your spinning.
This will get the armature I out.
I have a nice heavy duty slide hammer. I smash the shiz out of my fingers.
Les
Karl
You could also send your machine to Michael Balda (chicagomike) and have him look at it, he will likely be able to free the front bearing plate from this machine.
~Ben
You could also send your machine to Michael Balda (chicagomike) and have him look at it, he will likely be able to free the front bearing plate from this machine.
~Ben
Karl
Karl,
I remain convinced either or both the armature and front bearing plate may have to be replaced. The side of the armature affected is the fan end.
If confronted with replacement, you will need to obtain a 114959W (12062) or 114959A (20456) armature from another Kirby 505-519, and a 116884S front bearing plate. As I said before, unlike the original 116856S plate, the 116884S plate uses the 116073 front bearing normally designed for models Classic Omega 1CB to the present Avalir II, and also its associated service parts: 100773 front bearing seal, 100873 front bearing seal retainer and 101076 retaining ring.
~Ben
Karl,
I remain convinced either or both the armature and front bearing plate may have to be replaced. The side of the armature affected is the fan end.
If confronted with replacement, you will need to obtain a 114959W (12062) or 114959A (20456) armature from another Kirby 505-519, and a 116884S front bearing plate. As I said before, unlike the original 116856S plate, the 116884S plate uses the 116073 front bearing normally designed for models Classic Omega 1CB to the present Avalir II, and also its associated service parts: 100773 front bearing seal, 100873 front bearing seal retainer and 101076 retaining ring.
~Ben
Mike baldo
Is where I learned about the slide hammer. He fell off the end of the earth 6 months ago. There is one last way to get the motor out. I don't really know it's very safe. If you heat up the bottom you could get it free. I'd discourage that. I used a grinder to cut off a riveted on bearing and housing on my Hoover 913. The grease caught on fire.
Im going to guess the bearing heated up and metal got in the bottom of the motor housing and welded the bearing,armature, motor housing together.
If you need a motor housing,an armature or any other parts let me know I actually have atleast 3 519s.
This is my
blind pilot bearing puller slide hammer. I mainly used it on classic 1 and Omega models.
Les
Is where I learned about the slide hammer. He fell off the end of the earth 6 months ago. There is one last way to get the motor out. I don't really know it's very safe. If you heat up the bottom you could get it free. I'd discourage that. I used a grinder to cut off a riveted on bearing and housing on my Hoover 913. The grease caught on fire.
Im going to guess the bearing heated up and metal got in the bottom of the motor housing and welded the bearing,armature, motor housing together.
If you need a motor housing,an armature or any other parts let me know I actually have atleast 3 519s.
This is my
blind pilot bearing puller slide hammer. I mainly used it on classic 1 and Omega models.
Les
Instructions
I'm not going to try to explain.
Here is instructions on how to use it but it's the closest explanation I could find a vehicle wheel bearing.
Remove the rear wheel from the vehicle
Remove the brakes
Place the pulling adapter on the hub
Tightly secure the pulling adapter to the hub with the lock nuts
Ensure the slide hammer is on the slide rod
Thread the attachment point of the slide rod to the centre of the pull adapter
Screw in a nut at the back of the pull adapter to secure it to the slide rod
Turn the T-handle in a clockwise direction until tight
Leave one hand firmly holding unto the T-handle
Pressure should be applied away from the hub
Place the second hand on the slide hammer
Slide the hammer along the shaft in a back and forth movement
Gently force should be used when sliding the hammer toward the hub
When sliding the hammer away from the hub, more force should be used
Continue this back and forth movement until the hub is released
Once the hub is released, the bearing can be taken out
Sometimes the vibrations and the friction from the back and forth movement along the shaft may be difficult to handle. For this, simply tie a thick cloth around the slide hammer, leaving enough length for you to hold on to. Tug the cloth back and forth instead of physically holding on to the slide hammer.
Read Next: How to Use a Slide Hammer Dent Puller?
I'm not going to try to explain.
Here is instructions on how to use it but it's the closest explanation I could find a vehicle wheel bearing.
Remove the rear wheel from the vehicle
Remove the brakes
Place the pulling adapter on the hub
Tightly secure the pulling adapter to the hub with the lock nuts
Ensure the slide hammer is on the slide rod
Thread the attachment point of the slide rod to the centre of the pull adapter
Screw in a nut at the back of the pull adapter to secure it to the slide rod
Turn the T-handle in a clockwise direction until tight
Leave one hand firmly holding unto the T-handle
Pressure should be applied away from the hub
Place the second hand on the slide hammer
Slide the hammer along the shaft in a back and forth movement
Gently force should be used when sliding the hammer toward the hub
When sliding the hammer away from the hub, more force should be used
Continue this back and forth movement until the hub is released
Once the hub is released, the bearing can be taken out
Sometimes the vibrations and the friction from the back and forth movement along the shaft may be difficult to handle. For this, simply tie a thick cloth around the slide hammer, leaving enough length for you to hold on to. Tug the cloth back and forth instead of physically holding on to the slide hammer.
Read Next: How to Use a Slide Hammer Dent Puller?
texaskirbyguy
Well-known member
What kind of fan do you have? Does the shaft have a hole in it? Do you have a shaft from a new plastic fan? It is possible to use the hook from the slide hammer which is normally used to pull clutch pilot bearings out of crankshafts. Put hook in the hole and give some gentle tugs on the hammer. If you think the hook might break or it keeps coming out, you could rig something else in the hole, like a steel s-hook or even a close-sized screw, bent if needed, secured to the shaft somehow.
This will really pique the mechanical engineer in you!
This will really pique the mechanical engineer in you!
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