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With a very faded bag and scratches on the machine, no its not worth that. if the bag like new and perfect metal finishing AND original attachments, maybe at that price.
 
Apparently this machine isn't worth it.

The ebay listing has been active for several days, 17 people are watching it, the listing has had several hundred views.

Still not even an offer (say $1,000) acceptable to the seller?

A nicer one, a cheaper one, a more complete one may be around the corner in a week, a month, or a year. Then again, maybe not -- and a buyer could have purchased this current one and enjoyed adding it to his/her collection.

When I saw the listing and read the Facebook group's comments, I paused and was tempted to buy it -- but my current focus is on a different Kirby model.
 
What someone is willing to pay

It's possible this was bad timing putting it up for sale before Christmas. It's not to often a 505 comes up for sale, and more times then not they are far from being original. Even with the faded bag with just a little elbow grease this would be a great addition to any collection.

I wonder today what would a complete Kirby 505 with a NOS bag go for? I guess it would go back to the old adage "it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay". This could also just be a sign of the times, with the cost of everything going up in the last few years, people aren't willing to spurge on something like this.

If this is something you have always wanted in your collection there is another old adage that comes to mind. "Get while the getting is good".

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Umm

U have a $3000 kirby there. I seen that lasting and noticed it's far from pristine. He's never disassembled it and doesn't know how to disassemble it.
 
I’m surprised it’s lasted on eBay for so long

Must be the wrong timing I agree . But then again it really is all about the demand and the right collector. I think that if it were lowered to $800 as a bid only listing it would sell faster and get the seller closer to his/hers asking price ,
 
Yep

I think your right David, If they put it up with a starting bid of $800.00 I think it would sell. I do think it's worth what they are asking, but people want a better deal. I got in touch with the seller and suggested it.

Jim
 
I believe that no vacuum should cost as much as a used car. New or antique. Didn't someone on here say before that the old school collectors had a code not to sell vacuums for so much money, or to just gift them forward and not let them become a commodity? Something like that, am I remembering right?

Kirby is a widely respected and collected brand by people of modern arts and appliances not just vacuum collectors, so there is a bit of wiggle room for competition.

Keep in mind that any vacuums made before or around WW2 likely never survived the WW2 scrap drives and have been pretty much extinct after the last survivors in dusty old barns got pitched into the landfill with no regards to value or preservation. At the end of the day it's still just an old vacuum. I personally wouldn't do over $500. People will put down $300-$400 for a Bison so compare as you will.
 
Not quite the same

Comparing a non-original 510 to an all original 505 is not a fair comparison. The 505 is one of the most sought after Kirby models and worth much more then a 510. Unless the seller doesn't know what they have you might get lucky, and get one cheap. If your 510 had been original and the seller knew what they had you would have payed much more.

Jim

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Comparison

Pictured on the right is the NOS 505 bag that I got for $150.00 next to one of Michael Balda's reproduction 505 bag's, At the time I saw this online, I'm guessing the seller saw one of Mikes bags which were still being sold at the time for $150.00. So I think the seller thought that was what his bag was worth not Knowing his was the real deal and worth much, much more. That was my lucky day because I knew what I was looking at.

Jim

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Dang

One is corduroy and OEM is either duventyne or double quill cotton.
Very nice bag.
I remember likening the 505 to a 63 corvette stingray split window coupe. It's the best vacuum ever made.
 
Les

I agree with you, The 505 was one Kirby model I couldn't wait to find and add it to my collection. When I saw the 505 NOS bag and realized it was the real thing, I literally started shaking and couldn't push the buy it now button fast enough. Once the realization sunk in that I just got a very rare 505 NOS bag I jumped up and started dancing and yelling I got it!! I got it!! My wife thought I had lost my mind.

Side note: I just looked and the seller took my advice and reposted his 505 with a starting bid of $800.00, and a buy it now for $1,120.00. Also as you and I have talked about before, the fact that this Kirby was not pieced together and has all it's own original parts also set it apart from others.

Jim [this post was last edited: 12/21/2024-11:52]
 
I think they are beautiful.

Thanks for posting these photos.

Did the Kirby 505 that you previously sold for $350 have any shortcomings?

Earlier in this thread you mentioned your lucky ebay purchase in the past of an original 505 bag for $150. Do you think the original 505 bag that sold a month or so ago on ebay for $450 was a good price for these times?
 
I

Think the 510 price is a little high but not bad great shape.
The 505 could fetch well over $500. This is just my opinion.
I'm probably basing things off prices 3-5 years ago.
There both nice than the 505 for sale.
If you put a bag topper and bag on the 505 you could clear 2000-2500.
 
I do not want to dilute this thread. But...

When it comes to collector desirability, rarity, value and so on, is a Kirby 505 and a Kirby 4C comparable or do experienced Kirby collectors prefer one over the other and, if so, why?
 
505 and 510

They were both sold by auction. I was hoping the 505 would sell for more. It had no short coming's, but the handle grip, cord, and bag were not original. I was pleased with what I got for the 510. It did have a grey handle grip and Belden cord.

AS far as the 505 VS the Kirby 4C, the 4C was only made for one year, and the 505 was made for three years so it's not as rare as the 4C, not to mention the 4C did come first. The first year of the 505 was very close to the 4C, one notable difference is the 4C's aluminum emptor tray. pictured is my 4C with a Machel Balda bag.

Jim

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Hey

Now your just showing off.
I think the 4c is desirable and just as valuable. It's hard to find original 505s. It's even harder to find 4cs original.

I haven't talked to Mike in a while but his 505 bags were sweet.
 
Not sure

But I noticed the earlier C models cleaned up better then the later models, it seams to be easier to bring them to a nice clean shine. I think the aluminum castings were done differently on these C models. Maybe David can give us more detail on this.

I agree with you Les, an all original 4C would be just as valuable if not more so then a 505, again they are rarer then the 505. Thanks for your feed back my friend. I noticed the seller of the 505 put his up for auction for just one week. I think this was a mistake.

Jim
 
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Definitely fully restored these sell for a lot of money. You can get junkers for a lot less. I've got 2 of the rarer Kirby models for less than $60 each. Just keep your eyes open, ask around, and you might find one when you least expect it! For me the best deals always happen when I don't have any money, lol
 
Hmm

The seller is Chris hicks
Hmc 181 if I got it correct.
He is selling some of his collection.
He has a close to NIB ds 50.
He has some nice vacs for $200 plus shipping including 508 and 511.
The ds 50 is awesome.
 
508

I was interested in the 508, but unfortunately the light cap trim has been replaced. If I add another 508 to my collection I want it to have the original light cap trim. I restored one a few years back, and gave it to my brother as one of my Kirby floor lights. It also didn't have the original light cap trim, but I did try and get it as close as possible.

Jim

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Nice

It has the original bag. The 511 has a mike balda bag that cost $150. Which has all the attachments. I think there priced pretty well.
His 505 is one of his favorites. He did buy Kent Tyler's 505. That 505 is the nicest 505 I've ever seen.
 
Another rare Kirby up for sale.

This is another rare Kirby up for sale. There are a number of issues with this one, refurbished by the factory replacing the ID tag. Handle, bag, wheels, cord, were all replaced. I wonder if this one will sell. The all original Kirby 505 has been reduced to $600.00 or best offer. And still has not sold. Has these old Kirby's lost their appeal to collectors or again is this just over priced, and or bad timing?

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vacmadman

its not bad timing. the age bracket for what's "collectible" has drastically shifted in the last 10 years. the younger collectors don't care about vacuums before the 1980's now. when i got into this hobby 14 years ago, if you wanted something from the 1950's - 70s because of the baby boomers who remembered those machines growing up, you paid way more than they were worth to acquire from other collectors. Now, i can get pretty much any 50's-70s machine I want from estate sales and thrift stores with no competition, or from other collectors aging out of the hobby, for very cheap prices.

all original coffee can hoovers and pre DS50 Kirby's were the same way then. the people interested in those era of machines is shrinking, younger people like me who still love them are the exception, not the rule. most people in this hobby cant afford restored vacuums anyways, so that made an already niche market in a niche hobby even smaller as the era of vacuums most collectors are interested in shifted out of the early to mid 20th century to late 20th early 21st century era.

i restore the vacuums myself because i love them, not because i sell them. but i still understand the sect of the market who only see rare vacuums as investments, not preserving history.
 

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