I Have Been Proven Wrong!

[bagintheback]

About bagless vacuums! Yesterday for my birthday I my parents bought me a Hoover Windtunnel T-Series at Target (which was $30 off), which is my first cyclonic vacuum. Normally I hate bagless because they are messy and lose suction very quickly. My Bissell's filters need to be washed/vacuumed almost after every use, and Hoover's twin-chamber filter gets clogged so quickly it's not even funny. Plus they are a plain to use.

So, I wanted the T-Series for multiple reasons:
1. It's just looks so cool! I have no other vacuum that is so sleek.
2. It's cyclonic. Dysons are too expensive for me right now.
3. All the other vacuums were too basic/ or I already had the collection syetem

So, to my surprise, TTI got it right this time! The first thing that caught my eyes was that it had a 2 year warranty. I always look for a good warranty after what happened to my Halo.

I also like the washable filter. (there is one filter you need to replace, but under the warranty Hoover will replace it. I doubt that will happen with this system!) I really hate looking for filters, they are too expensive and don't last.

This thing can clean! The first time I used it in my living room, which had been vacuumed with my Hoover 704 the last night, I filled up the canister to the top! It was really quiet and easy to move around.

Today I vacuumed a small rug I hadn't vacuumed in about a month (sisters), which was also last vacuumed with my 704. I picked up more than I did than in my living room!

Amazingly, all the filters are still clean as they were when I bought it. And I've vacuumed the house twice!

Well, thanks to my two pets, this vacuum will be getting a work out. The dust-cup is so easy to dump and it doesn't loss suction, just like TTI says.

I now fully back Cyclonic technology. If you are in the market for a new Hoover, get the T-Series. So much better than the cruddy Twin-Chamber vacs.

They only thing I worry about is the parts. I know Hoover discontinues parts very quickly now.

 

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One day of dirt!

Frist use. I had just vacuumed this room the night before with my 704!

 

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What came out of a small rug!

Wow (the rug the canister is on is the one where all the dirt came out of!)

 

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The vacuum

 

[joe22]

congrats, i have heard good things about this hoover

 

[dustin]

Just a silly question, what happened to your Halo?

 

[vintagehoover]

I'm pleased to read about your change of heart; just goes to show what actual experience of a product can do!

It's very important to make the distinction between 'filter-based bagless', 'dual-cyclonic' and 'multi-cyclonic', which many on this forum fail to do. They tend to tar them all with the same (dusting?) brush, but they're completely different categories of cleaner.

A filter-based bagless cleaner, such as your Bissell, separates the bulky fluff and debris from the airstream with a low-efficiency cyclone, created by directing the airstream at the inner bin wall at a 90-degree angle. However, the centrifugal forces generated are not strong enough to hold back the finer, lighter particles. This means a filter is required to trap the finer dust - but as it does so, it clogs, and performance drops. This necessitates frequent washing or tapping out to maintain decent airflow – messy and unhygienic, since it’s filled with large quantities of fine dust!

A cone-shaped cyclone exerts much more powerful forces on the fine dust, which increases as the cyclone tapers towards the bottom - this is called a high-efficiency (HE) cyclone. However, a high-efficiency cyclone cannot work alone, because it can’t separate oddly-shaped debris, such as lint, strands of hair, etc.

James Dyson was the first to develop and patent the ‘dual-cyclonic’ system, where an interior HE cyclone is housed within an exterior low-efficiency cyclone. With those two technologies working together, with a 'shroud' placed between the two to deflect debris back into the bin, the filter stays cleaner for a lot longer, because only the most microscopic dust particles reach it. This means it takes considerably longer – months, rather than minutes – for performance to become adversely affected.

Your Hoover T-Series is dual-cyclonic – similar to the earlier (DC01-06) Dyson models. The next step up is ‘multi-cyclonic’, which takes the same principle, but replaces the single large HE cyclone with multiple smaller HE cyclones. This increases the centrifugal force exerted on the dust particles, making it even more efficient. It also increases the amount of airflow the system can handle, boosting performance.

 

[vacuumfreeeke]

Congrats on getting a new vacuum, that's ALWAYS exciting no matter what it is ) I know my others are neglected for the first month when I get a new one until the new wears off.

Glad you are happy with it and it seems to work well. I do like the color. I'd still encourage you to get a Dyson at some point, even a used one can be had for the price of some of the new cheaper machines out there. They are awesome machines!

 

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dustin:
The story of my Halo is a weird one. I had been saving up some money to buy a new vacuum, and found online that I could get a brand new Halo UV-ST (the top of the line model, also the last of the true Halos) for $99, $400 less than retail. All was fine until I sucked a popcorn kernel. Yep, a small food that all my other vacuums had survived had killed my new Halo. It made this horrible high-pitched noise. I determined it just stuck in the fan, which unlike similar vacuums like an Oreck, Hoover Elite, or a Dirtdevil Featherlite, you can not access the fan. Thankfully for the 1 year warranty, I was able to get a new refurbished Halo free of cost. Weirdly, that one seems to do better than the first one. So now I always look for a long warranty before I buy something, because you never know!

VintageHoover and Vacuumfreeeke, one day I will get a Dyson. I'm more excited than ever to get one now because of the results with my Hoover. Although I do think that Windtunnel technology is superior to most uprights, Dysons does seems to make sense.

 

[joe22]

what jack said

very informative and interesting information

 

[kenmore81]

Im glad you like your new Hoover Dustin! I have been wondering about these vacuums myself. Happy belated Birthday!
Kenny

 

[vacman117]

I almost got that same machine back in December? I think. It was a hard decision, because I wasn't to keen on it judging by other bagless Hoovers. I figured it would have low suction, the filters would clog easily, and of course, Hoover's famous SHORT CORD that they just can't seem to improve for some reason? I didn't really like the attachments either. And the dust cup looked rather small? But in the future if I ever need to get a bagless-vac, this will definitely be my first choice!
~Chase

 

[a1945]

But in the future if I ever need to get a bagless-vac, this

I still think the new Dyson uprights are better

 

[mark40511]

Question

When you vacuum with this does dust accumulate on the outside of the vacuum? That always made me paranoid about bagless vacs leaking dirt/dust. My first bagless was a Phantom back in 1997 and I HATED it but I used it til it died after three years. After that, I have never even looked at another bagless. I'm sure technology has advanced so they have most likely improved.

 

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mark40511

Only when it empty it. It's a very nice vacuum, the HEPA filter is awesome!

 

[schwinnapproved]

The thing about those older Fantom uprights is that they used NO pre-motor filter, at least the Thunder was it?? That right there explains the dead motor

These Hoover "T" vacs aren't bad (TTI aside). They do clean well and the filters are made of a nice material and seal good. I've used this model a few times and really had no complaints. If I were ever to get one, I'd pry jump on the basic carpet only no cord rewind model, and I think the stripped down ones are only around $90-$100 If I'm not mistaken.

On a side note, Dyson has made some very nice improvements. I haven't had a single issue with my DC27, cleans great and runs like a top. My only concern is if some parts will become scarce for it as it supposedly is discontinued over here in the US.

 

[a1945]

I still have not seen any parts for the 27 OR the 28, now maybe it's because they are still so new.

 

[hooverbaby]

Looks interesting!

The T-series looks like a useful and stylish design..but will they be available in the UK?

Stephen

 

[mark40511]

The Phantom I had was the Phantom Fury. I'm pretty sure I remember getting in Christmas of 96 (I think)...I think 2000 was the year it died.I remember vacuuming with it and I remember seeing dust collect in the bin (which it is supposed to do), but also on the outside of the vacuum as if it were leaking. I also remember the removable dust bin, when placed back on the unit, never seemed to seal really well..It was in correctly, but sort of loose. I used it until it died, but after it was gone, I said I would NEVER get another bagless. But things have changed. If I ever do get another bagless, I'm trying to imagine where I would dump the dirt. I have the trash collection bin in my garage but I can't see just dumping the dusty mess down in that, only to spew dust out of the bin every time I throw a bag of trash in. I mean, I don't have allergies but still, my garage is pretty clean where I have the trash bin (called a Herbie) that you roll out to the street once a week for trash pick up.