Hoover Spirit/Dimension

[kirbyclassiciii]

Hi,

Did Hoover come up with the Spirit line of canisters to replace their dome-shaped Celebrity line?

And didn't they come out with the Dimension in 1985 to compete with Eureka's Express line?

~Ben

 

[kenmore81]

Hmmm???

Sounds about right Ben, I think the spirit was not only to replace the Celebrity but also to compete with the kenmore canister design, and are lighter/cheaper than the Celeb and compitition.
As for the Dimention I think that was also to compete with Kenmore/Eureka and serve as thier "high end' series.
Ken

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

The Electronic 1000

Ken,

Would you happen to know anything about Hoover's Electronic 1000 canister vac? AFAIK, this French import of a canister (in the U.K., it was known as the Sensotronic) was the predecessor to the Dimension line. The Dimension 1000 (which was U.S.-made) replaced the E1000 in 1985.

~Ben

 

[kenmore81]

Umm....

I know I wanted/want one lol..I know the U.K. version was the senortronic. The US version did replace the the E1000 IIRC also there was a few versions of the Demention.Demention 900, 1000,I belive Hoover also used the Supermacy name on it also. I don't know if this answers your question. I don't know much about it other than It was the first "electronic" controled vac that I remeber as a kid along with the Concept Two Electronic. and at 299.99 for the concept and 399.99 for the Dimention 1000(I think) I couldnt afford it on my 3$ a week allowance lol.
Kenny

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

Supremacy Canisters

Ken,

Yes, the Supremacy versions of the Spirit/Dimension line did exist when Hoover brought out that series (which also included uprights based on the former Convertible/Decade line) to limited markets in the early 1990s.

Also, the U.K.-built Innovation (called the Turbomaster in its country of origin) was Hoover's second go at an electronically controlled upright vacuum, after the most-expensive U.S.-built upright model, the Concept Two Electronic.

Unfortunately, electronic vacuums never did sell that well due to (among other things) issues with the PCBs (printed circuit boards). And it seems as though there are no electronically-controlled vacs out there being made today, AFAIK.

~Ben

 

[tristar]

No Electronically Controlled Vacs?

Are you nuts?! Have you not heard of Miele? Any vacuum with a variable speed motor has an electronic control!

Check out the higher end Miele S7's off the top of my head. They even have an automatic speed control to adjust the speed depending on the dirt level of the floors. The electronic control is alive and well.

 

[vintagehoover]

I second that, there's countless electronically-controlled vacs out there, especially now we've got the technology to make the equipment smaller, cheaper, and (hopefully!) more reliable. As Eric says, there's Miele, and also Sebo - the X1 range have a computer so accurate it alters the height of the nozzle to compensate for brush-wear, as well as differentiating between different carpet heights.

Hoover's Turbomaster was pre-dated by the early 1980s original Sensotronic canister series, which had electronically-variable power, and a lamp which illuminated when the airflow was insufficient. I'm sure Rob and Paul can tell you more about those than I can!

 

[vintagehoover]

I'd also add that comparatively poor sales of older cleaners with electronically-controlled functions would have been largely due to the fact that such features were often reserved for TOL models, often priced out of reach of many potential buyers.

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

Not Too Many (I Stand Corrected)

Sorry guys, I forgot about Miele; I was looking at this from a 100% U.S. perspective.

In America - here - it seems we've run out of luck with electronics in vacuums. But that could change in the next few years, after I'd seen a video news story on Riccar vacs being made here again.

~Ben

 

[tristar]

There's a reason for that....

Most of the American companies outsourced long, long ago.

Some brands like Riccar actually DO have electronics in their vacuums. They don't actually control the speed of the motor, but they monitor the brushroll, heat, etc to shut the machine down and inform you of any failures or problems that may arise.

Even lowly power nozzles on some of the TriStar machines had a circuit board in them to shut down the PN if the brushroll jammed. The variable speed motor is more of a gimmick than anything else. That's the reason you don't see it much anymore. Most people either use high or low speed, and could care less about the in-between speeds.

Even currently, only the high end models from some manufacturers have electronic speed controls in them. Again......it's just another gimmick to make you feel better about spending obscene amounts of money on a machine that cleans no better than the simpler model!

It is, and always has been a marketing ploy. It has nothing to do with how well the vacuum cleans or how easy it is to operate. It's basically there to add "bling" and buttons to make it seem more "high end".

 

[paul]

Hoover USA ‘80s Suitcase Style Canister Models List

Spirit - 1981-1990 - retractable 20-foot cord; full bag indicator; furniture guard on nozzle; suction control on grip; foot pedal on/off switch; covered hood tool compartment; Powermatic nozzle w/dirt-finding headlight and brushed edge cleaning on both sides; 5-piece attachment set; replaced by Futura canisters

Housing Lid & Main Body Colors - capitalized are from literature &/or schematics
• S3203 Poppy Red Medium - monochrome
• S3205 Mist Blue & Slate Blue
• S3207 Pastel Gray & Light Gray
• S3209 Crimson Rust & Almond Beige
• S3211 Pastel Gray & Light Gray
• S3213 Jade Green Light & teal green medium
• S3241 Jade Green Medium (monochrome)
• S3243 Deep Rust Brown (monochrome)
• S3245 Honey Beige & Crimson Rust
• S3247 Frost Beige & Poppy Red Medium
• S3257 Slate Blue & Almond Beige
• S3259 Oyster White & Almond Beige
• S3261 Pastel Gray & Light Gray
• S3263 Slate Blue & Mist Gray
• S3265 Cashmere Blue & Blue Shadow
• S3267 Cashmere Blue & Blue Shadow
• S3269 Crimson Rust & Mist Gray; -036, -060, -070 – Crimson Rust & Platinum Gray
• S3271 Black Gloss & Almond Beige; -036, -060, -070 – Black Gloss & Pastel Beige
• S3289 Poppy Red Medium & Almond Beige
• S3291 Jade Green Medium (monochrome)
• S3293 Deep Rust Brown (monochrome)
• S3295 Honey Beige (main body code unlisted; monochrome?)
• S3299 Blue Shadow & Platinum Gray; -031 – Oyster White & Blue Shadow
• S3391 Dusty Rose & ABM
• S3393 ABN (monochrome)
• S3395 ABN (monochrome)
• S3397 Oyster White (monochrome)
• S3399 Oyster White (monochrome)
• S3401 Black Gloss & Oyster White
• S3403 Slate Green Deep & Platinum Gray
• S3405 Pastel Gray & Slate Green Medium
• S3410 Black Gloss & Oyster White
• S3419 Pastel Gray & Almond Beige
• S3420 Black Gloss & ABU
• S3423 Pastel Gray & Slate Green Medium
• S3425 Almond Beige (monochrome)
• S3427 Platinum Gray & Light Gray
• S3429 Camargue Blue & Platinum Gray
• S3431 Cranberry & Platinum Gray
• S3433 Black Gloss (monochrome)
• S3435 Mauve & Pastel Beige
• S3439 Light Camargue Blue & Camargue Blue
• S3441 Mauve & Platinum Gray
• S3443 Camargue Blue & Almond Beige
• S3473 Crimson Rust & Platinum Gray
• S3475 Pastel Gray & Pastel Beige
• S3479 Platinum Gray (monochrome)
• S3481 Dusty Rose & Platinum Gray
• S3483 Blue Shadow & Almond Beige
• S3485 Black Gloss (monochrome)
• S3487 Black Gloss & Platinum Gray
• S3499 Black Gloss & Silver Sand-Medium
• S3501 Ebony Brown & Sable Brown
• S3503 Black Gloss & Platinum Gray
• S3505 AAY & Platinum Gray
• S3521 ABP (monochrome)
• S3621 ‘Supremacy’ label; ABB & Thorn Gray
• S3627 Thorn Gray & Platinum Gray
• S3629 Thorn Gray & Silver Sand-Medium
• S3631 Black Gloss & Silver Sand-Medium
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Dimension – 1982-1991 – upscale version of Spirit; retractable 22-foot cord; covered hood tool compartment; check bag signal light; foot pedal on/off switch; one-step hose connection; furniture guard; built-in carrying handle; large trundling wheels; Powermatic nozzle w/dirt-finding headlight, Quadraflex agitator, suction control on grip, furniture guard & carpet-to-bare floor agitator on/off pedal; 9-quart bag capacity; 10.4 or 12.0 amps; 3.1, 4.0, or 4.3 peak horse power; 7-piece attachment set; replaced by PowerMAX canisters

Rear Deck & Lower Case or Furniture Guard Colors
• S3231 ‘1000’ Helena Brown
• S3273 ‘900’; Almond Beige & Crimson Rust
• S3275 ‘900’ Crimson Rust & Almond Beige
• S3277 ‘1000’ Cashmere Blue & Blue Shadow
• S3279 ‘1000’ Blue Shadow & Cashmere Blue
• S3281 ‘1000’ Shades of Slate Green; electronic
• S3283 ‘1000’ Silver Sand & Midnight Gray; electronic
• S3445 Crimson Rust & Ebony Brown
• S3491 ‘1000’ Black Gloss & Silver Sand-Medium
• S3493 ‘1000’ Black Gloss & Silver Sand-Medium; electronic
• S3623 ‘Supremacy’ label; ABB & Black Gloss
• S3625 ‘Supremacy’ label; electronic; ABB & Black Gloss
• S3633 ?
• S3635 Silver Sand & Black Gloss