aeoliandave
Well-known member
It's a tricky term - vintage - as the years continue to advance. Here's the thing - The machines that interest most of us 'oldsters' come from our childhoods and even earlier if your Gramma still had her's predating our birth. Naturally we tend to gravitate to those magnificent sturdy cast and formed metal vacuums that followed WW2. Once you are entranced by the engineering and styling you develop a curiosity for what came before. Domestic Vacuum Cleaners go back a mere 100 years. Many if not most of this founding group of collectors have scant interest in the Plastic Era Contemporary vacuums available today and they are intruding on what used to be Vintage territory. Not that we want to obliterate the past nor deny the present, but wish to explore the larger view of where and how appliances developed to the versions we have in the present. So little historical attention is drawn or discussed by the new folks that they have no recourse but to scour the ample Archives, if so inclined.
From my point of view at the young age of 61 I fully expect another 20, maybe 30 years of Vacuum enthusiasm. It sure would be nice the have a Forum devoted to the oldest vacs without the clutter of sharing with vacuums only 20 years old, as we approach 2015.
I'd like to propose splitting VINTAGE into two sections/buttons. And due to the rise of plastics I'd suggest 1960 as the dividing point. No division is perfect, of course but at a 55 years back point, as of 2015, those interested would have an easier time relating to and commenting on eras closer to their favorite period.
And as the years pass I further suggest that the 50 year mark should be maintained at 50 while the 20 year mark advances annually. By example, in 2016 the 50 mark would become 51, while the 20 year mark would remain at 20.
What to call the new buttons?
Since 'ancient' or 'pre-Vintage' are unsatisfactory terms I suppose the only option is:
Vintage 1 - The forum for vintage Vacuum Cleaners that are at least 50 years old.
Vintage 2 - The forum for vintage Vacuum Cleaners that are at least 20 years old.
Contemporary continues as The forum for current Vacuum Cleaners less than 20 years old.
In a related and similar train of thought...
Perhaps there is no room for an additional button but in a 'opening-a-can-of-worms' discussion, as a paid member it irks me that I cannot access the Junior Forum. I'm not alone in this opinion. We members have no idea what goes on there and whether mis-information is being distributed. Instead we hear about it on the other Vacuum web groups.
What are the participation and activity percentages of JUNIOR?
If the traffic is high then we are all missing something. If the traffic is low, then why bother to provide for it?
Is the JUNIOR Forum and Button really necessary any more?
As a group of dedicated, enthusiastic Admirers, Collectors and Mentors of all things Vacuum-ish does it not seem reasonable that the old timers have something to share with the younger set?
Suggestions, respectful rants and lively discussion is encouraged to test where the wind is blowing.
Sincerely for the greater good of Vacuumland,
Old Davy
From my point of view at the young age of 61 I fully expect another 20, maybe 30 years of Vacuum enthusiasm. It sure would be nice the have a Forum devoted to the oldest vacs without the clutter of sharing with vacuums only 20 years old, as we approach 2015.
I'd like to propose splitting VINTAGE into two sections/buttons. And due to the rise of plastics I'd suggest 1960 as the dividing point. No division is perfect, of course but at a 55 years back point, as of 2015, those interested would have an easier time relating to and commenting on eras closer to their favorite period.
And as the years pass I further suggest that the 50 year mark should be maintained at 50 while the 20 year mark advances annually. By example, in 2016 the 50 mark would become 51, while the 20 year mark would remain at 20.
What to call the new buttons?
Since 'ancient' or 'pre-Vintage' are unsatisfactory terms I suppose the only option is:
Vintage 1 - The forum for vintage Vacuum Cleaners that are at least 50 years old.
Vintage 2 - The forum for vintage Vacuum Cleaners that are at least 20 years old.
Contemporary continues as The forum for current Vacuum Cleaners less than 20 years old.
In a related and similar train of thought...
Perhaps there is no room for an additional button but in a 'opening-a-can-of-worms' discussion, as a paid member it irks me that I cannot access the Junior Forum. I'm not alone in this opinion. We members have no idea what goes on there and whether mis-information is being distributed. Instead we hear about it on the other Vacuum web groups.
What are the participation and activity percentages of JUNIOR?
If the traffic is high then we are all missing something. If the traffic is low, then why bother to provide for it?
Is the JUNIOR Forum and Button really necessary any more?
As a group of dedicated, enthusiastic Admirers, Collectors and Mentors of all things Vacuum-ish does it not seem reasonable that the old timers have something to share with the younger set?
Suggestions, respectful rants and lively discussion is encouraged to test where the wind is blowing.
Sincerely for the greater good of Vacuumland,
Old Davy
