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I am not the biggest Oreck fan but I agree with sleepdoc that they aren't BAD machines. I do like to have them around because they are hot items to have for sale. I do however think that all of the new ones are ugly enough to puke at. And if you will take notice they are no longer the 8lbs vacuum but now the 9 lbs vacuum. Well to tell you the truth they are 8 or 9 lbs the first week you use them then they get full and heavy.lol