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<blockquote data-quote="gmerkt" data-source="post: 207941" data-attributes="member: 4162">We&#039;ve talked about these machines on a post here before.&nbsp; You&#039;re not wrong, the W2 bagless is overly complex and a downright poor design.&nbsp; That would-be self cleaning filter is as bogus as a three dollar bill.&nbsp; The Hoover Z-400 and Z-700 used the same concept and they were also poor performers but a little easier to work on than the bagless W2.&nbsp; Making things worse, the plastic parts they used in the W2 are fragile.&nbsp; Oh, and don&#039;t even look at the price of a replacement filter.&nbsp; The whole thing is just too awful.The bagged version, on the other hand, it a fairly decent machine if you can get around the expensive bags they require.&nbsp; They share the bottom end, which is overly complex with an double indirect drive brush roll.&nbsp; Worst part about the bottom end is that the frame is prone to breakage where the handle release pedal is mounted.&nbsp; If handled roughly, the frame will break rather than the pedal.&nbsp; $$$.I&#039;ve got a busted bagged W2 sitting out in my storage building, just waiting for a donor machine to come along that has an intact bottom frame.&nbsp; Problem is, most machines that I run across at my intake price point have the same broken part.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gmerkt, post: 207941, member: 4162"] We've talked about these machines on a post here before. You're not wrong, the W2 bagless is overly complex and a downright poor design. That would-be self cleaning filter is as bogus as a three dollar bill. The Hoover Z-400 and Z-700 used the same concept and they were also poor performers but a little easier to work on than the bagless W2. Making things worse, the plastic parts they used in the W2 are fragile. Oh, and don't even look at the price of a replacement filter. The whole thing is just too awful. The bagged version, on the other hand, it a fairly decent machine if you can get around the expensive bags they require. They share the bottom end, which is overly complex with an double indirect drive brush roll. Worst part about the bottom end is that the frame is prone to breakage where the handle release pedal is mounted. If handled roughly, the frame will break rather than the pedal. $$$. I've got a busted bagged W2 sitting out in my storage building, just waiting for a donor machine to come along that has an intact bottom frame. Problem is, most machines that I run across at my intake price point have the same broken part. [/QUOTE]

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