Early Riccar Vacuum Question

[thevacuumman]

I just got a Riccar HP3000 that needs a new motor, but I have a question on which motor to put in it
I have a newly rebuilt Matsushita motor that came out of a junker Jet-Flo and I have a 12 Amp Ametek
motor that came out of a Tacony Belvedere that had a busted base. They both fit but I'm wondering which
one I should use.

 

[tolivac]

Ametek.

 

[dysonman1]

Did the Belvedere look like...

This one? It has a double fan motor.

 

[dysonman1]

Does the Riccar HP3000 look like...

This one (except for color)? It has a single fan motor.

 

[blackheart]

Oooh!

That red and chrome belvedere is a nice looking vacuum!

 

[thevacuumman]

The belvedere doesn't look like the one you showed but the HP3000 looks like the tan one except mine is blue and gray

 

[seamusuk]

The "Hoover" in the background...

Hey Tom
Is the bagged lightweight sold in the US or South Africa like the other Hoover branded machine you posted about a while back??
Seamus

 

[dysonman1]

@Seamus

The SupraLite labeled as a Hoover was sold in Hoover-owned Service Centers only. We also private labeled a full sized 8000 series Riccar as a Hoover, but with a 240 volt motor to be sold in Europe and Australia. We made over 10,000 of them for export, so there should still be a good number of them being used.

 

[chan55]

Riccar

What is the difference between a Riccar and a Simplicity?
We have a new Simplicity Commercial at one of my jobs. It is nice for carpets, but akward with the hose like most uprights. It is so powerful, it tips over when you pull on the hose to stretch it out. Very cheap tools also. I have a Sears TOL, that seems to be very much the same machine too. same problems with the hose and tools also

 

[dysonman1]

Stretch hoses always retract when anything restricts the airflow, even slightly. The advantage of the optional tool kit with a Simplicity or a Riccar, is that it makes attachment use just as easy as with a canister vacuum. Real horsehair brushes on the floor tool, dusting brush, and upholstery tool. You can get it with a 9 or a 12 foot vinyl, wire reinforced hose that attaches directly to the back attachment port OR to the stretch hose (for automobile cleaning). No fighting the hose as you clean. The part number is DLATT, available at virtually any Tacony dealer. I feel the on-board attachments on any upright are for instantaneous, very short term use. Never for things like furniture cleaning, stair cleaning, etc. But to reach beside the sofa, or along an edge, sure - on-board tools are fine.

 

[thevacuumman]

All Fixed!

Here's a picture of the Riccar

 

[thevacuumman]

Metal brushroll

and soleplate

 

[thevacuumman]

Data plate

S/N 0000595

 

[thevacuumman]

Motors

The original motor on the left, the Matsushita motor on the right

 

[thevacuumman]

Riccar VS Jet-Flo

Look how similar they are.