aeoliandave
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Just for fun, as I prepare to spa the new LX, a visual survey of the major units.
16 bolts and apart it comes to this state.
Topsides.
16 bolts and apart it comes to this state.
Topsides.
Deconstructing an LX
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aeoliandave
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Bottom sides
The motor comes out before bedtime for a once-over tomorrow.
4 bolts to release the rubber sealing diaphram. 3 more bolts to free the motor from its own rubber shock mounts around the diaphram.
If anyone would like specific part's details posted please say so as the LX goes back together over the weekend, shiny & cleaned.
Not surprising perhaps but the cast aluminum ends, the motor and especially the cordwinder are the heaviest parts. Without them the LX is as light as a big feather.
Dave.
The motor comes out before bedtime for a once-over tomorrow.
4 bolts to release the rubber sealing diaphram. 3 more bolts to free the motor from its own rubber shock mounts around the diaphram.
If anyone would like specific part's details posted please say so as the LX goes back together over the weekend, shiny & cleaned.
Not surprising perhaps but the cast aluminum ends, the motor and especially the cordwinder are the heaviest parts. Without them the LX is as light as a big feather.
Dave.
crevicetool
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The main portion of the LX
when disassembled always reminds me of a stationary or traction boiler. Just the steamer in me.
Rick
when disassembled always reminds me of a stationary or traction boiler. Just the steamer in me.
Rick
aeoliandave
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Yes indeedy do.
The firebox, the steam chamber. If ya packed the bag cage with straws you surely got a boiler simulation. LOL
Or, the nuclear powerplants Ford was imagining for the Nucleon atomic dream car...well, at least Chrysler actually built the Turbine Car, 30 of em. or was it 33? Still have the 1/24 scale Johaan plastic model kit under a plastic dust bubble. Picked up the 1/18 diecast at the Chrysler Museum last year.
I feel a model car photo op coming on. Stop me now......
The firebox, the steam chamber. If ya packed the bag cage with straws you surely got a boiler simulation. LOL
Or, the nuclear powerplants Ford was imagining for the Nucleon atomic dream car...well, at least Chrysler actually built the Turbine Car, 30 of em. or was it 33? Still have the 1/24 scale Johaan plastic model kit under a plastic dust bubble. Picked up the 1/18 diecast at the Chrysler Museum last year.
I feel a model car photo op coming on. Stop me now......
If you don't start a model car thread, I will.
Can't wait to see the results of your LX project, and I have tons of 1:18 scale cars, had a bunch of 1:24 cars, but when I was younger and stupid, I gave them away in 1975!
Can't wait to see the results of your LX project, and I have tons of 1:18 scale cars, had a bunch of 1:24 cars, but when I was younger and stupid, I gave them away in 1975!
aeoliandave
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LX Cordwinder survey
Between the 5 LXs here there are 4 variations of cordwinder. Like Charles and others, I'm sure, I have a fascination with minute details like this.
Given that the LX has a different plug socket than an XXX/30 and the E/AE have a swing open cordwinder like the LXI, I have to assume all these LX winders are correct (or retrofitted) for a given moment in time over the short 3.5 year run of the LX.
#1 on the left has the Electrolux logo stamped in relief. I have two of these, one on a first version LX with the red/yellow side strip.
#3 & #4 on the right in hammertone have the logo similarly stamped in relief.
All of these are stamped Type T Cordomatics made by the Vacuum Cleaner Corporation of Philadelphia PA.
#2 however differs from this pattern. It has the logo raised from the surface with slightly smaller letters. It came on the recent birthday version one LX with the low serial number, currently undergoing a Spa Makeover, with the polished plug cover & hose recepticle. (it should have been #1 in the photo but...)
Also, this Benjamin Reel of Cleveland OH - Model 8850-3 - has the instructions either side of the exhaust clamp stamped into the housing. All my other cordwinders have the stick on label instructions.
Yes, Felix is not camera shy.
Between the 5 LXs here there are 4 variations of cordwinder. Like Charles and others, I'm sure, I have a fascination with minute details like this.
Given that the LX has a different plug socket than an XXX/30 and the E/AE have a swing open cordwinder like the LXI, I have to assume all these LX winders are correct (or retrofitted) for a given moment in time over the short 3.5 year run of the LX.
#1 on the left has the Electrolux logo stamped in relief. I have two of these, one on a first version LX with the red/yellow side strip.
#3 & #4 on the right in hammertone have the logo similarly stamped in relief.
All of these are stamped Type T Cordomatics made by the Vacuum Cleaner Corporation of Philadelphia PA.
#2 however differs from this pattern. It has the logo raised from the surface with slightly smaller letters. It came on the recent birthday version one LX with the low serial number, currently undergoing a Spa Makeover, with the polished plug cover & hose recepticle. (it should have been #1 in the photo but...)
Also, this Benjamin Reel of Cleveland OH - Model 8850-3 - has the instructions either side of the exhaust clamp stamped into the housing. All my other cordwinders have the stick on label instructions.
Yes, Felix is not camera shy.
aeoliandave
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Closeup of the two different chrome letterings.
Anyone else wanna chime in to confirm or correct my obvious conclusions of which cordwinder goes with which LX?
Have I just got 'way too much time on my hands in this snowstorm?
Anyone else wanna chime in to confirm or correct my obvious conclusions of which cordwinder goes with which LX?
Have I just got 'way too much time on my hands in this snowstorm?
crevicetool
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That's interesting...
To my recollection, I've not seen a chrome plated winder with the lettering stamped in relief. I've only seen them raised. Sorry to not be any help as to which goes with what. Did not know the other even existed! Also, only knew about the cord-o-matics "model T", (I think) who was this Benjamin Co.?
To my recollection, I've not seen a chrome plated winder with the lettering stamped in relief. I've only seen them raised. Sorry to not be any help as to which goes with what. Did not know the other even existed! Also, only knew about the cord-o-matics "model T", (I think) who was this Benjamin Co.?
aeoliandave
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I just find it interesting that there are 4 types over the 3
It WAS an option but I can't imagine spending that kinda dough for such a high end, high style vacuum and not including the winder. It is possible a dealership would fit the LX plug lead to a trade-in XXX winder for the customer. (Is this why so many XXXs have no cordwinder?)
I know which one came on which vacuum 'cause I keep notes. So back on they will go...
#2 goes with the oldest 1952 LX. Next LX will get one of the #1s.
Second #1 goes to the the next higher serial number 1954 plain chrome side strip.
#3 to the next SN and #4, the E style, on the last LX before the LXI.
These variations are why I 'need' 6 LXs. LOL I luvs me the Luxs...
Heck, it could be worse...it would be daunting to be collecting every Constellation color variation ever produced. I leave that to Tom and other Hoover Afficianados.
It WAS an option but I can't imagine spending that kinda dough for such a high end, high style vacuum and not including the winder. It is possible a dealership would fit the LX plug lead to a trade-in XXX winder for the customer. (Is this why so many XXXs have no cordwinder?)
I know which one came on which vacuum 'cause I keep notes. So back on they will go...
#2 goes with the oldest 1952 LX. Next LX will get one of the #1s.
Second #1 goes to the the next higher serial number 1954 plain chrome side strip.
#3 to the next SN and #4, the E style, on the last LX before the LXI.
These variations are why I 'need' 6 LXs. LOL I luvs me the Luxs...
Heck, it could be worse...it would be daunting to be collecting every Constellation color variation ever produced. I leave that to Tom and other Hoover Afficianados.
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I also have never seen the chromeplated winder with the lettering in relief. I'd say you have something a bit rare there.
The chrome ones with the raised lettering are earlier and the blue ones with the lettering in relief are later. Just because a certain version of the LX came with a certain type of winder doesn't necessarily mean that's the one that came with it originally. Some of them may have been mixed-and-matched in resale vac shops, or purchased later as after-market items.
n.b., the cord winders for the AE, E and F have lettering in relief while all the old chrome XXX winders I've ever seen have raised lettering. So again, the chrome version with the lettering in relief is an oddity.
As for the two blue cord winders, the one with the stand-up rim is later, but there is a bit of a mystery there: I have also seen the earlier-style cord winder on the LXI flip-open winder. Go figger!
The chrome ones with the raised lettering are earlier and the blue ones with the lettering in relief are later. Just because a certain version of the LX came with a certain type of winder doesn't necessarily mean that's the one that came with it originally. Some of them may have been mixed-and-matched in resale vac shops, or purchased later as after-market items.
n.b., the cord winders for the AE, E and F have lettering in relief while all the old chrome XXX winders I've ever seen have raised lettering. So again, the chrome version with the lettering in relief is an oddity.
As for the two blue cord winders, the one with the stand-up rim is later, but there is a bit of a mystery there: I have also seen the earlier-style cord winder on the LXI flip-open winder. Go figger!
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P.S. The very earliest chromeplated winder for the XXX said "Cordomatic" on the rear instead of the Electrolux logo, and it's in raised lettering.
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Just to throw yet another variable into the mix ... I also have one of the early hammertone-blue cord winders, the type without the standup ring, with raised letters ... on a late blue-trim XXX!
aeoliandave
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So the variations are as endless as the pile of cordwinder p
I'm with you here, Charles. "Some of them may have been mixed-and-matched in resale vac shops, or purchased later as after-market items."
"never seen the chromeplated winder with the lettering in relief. I'd say you have something a bit rare there." Well dang, I'll keep that one on the freshly Spa-d birthday LuX, then. Even though it probably dates to the time of the blue reels and mid to late LXs...
Another variation between the two manufacturers...the knurled nut on the Type T from Vacuum Cleaner Corp, Phila. has straight grooves. The Benjamin Reel has a diamond pattern knurl. It's a snap to swap out the short cord to XXX or LX or whatever model end receptor - under that small silver 'bike bell' housing are twist connectors to the ring contact leads inside the Cordwinder shell. It's equally easy to mix, switch and match the parts - such as shell halves - between both makes, as anyone who has opened their cordreel to rehab the spring recoil or replace a split cord well knows. I guess the authenticity rule of thumb is to mate cordwinders dictated by plug end to appropriate era model machines and put the best one on the most deserving machine within that group.
Got one XXX with a chrome Electrolux reel. Will be keeping my eyes peeled for a reel with Cordomatic stamped across it for the other XXXs. My LXI flip-open has the stand-up rim as does my AE which has the chrome ring around the shell seam.
Last bit of Cord Winder trivia...This same AE style winder is used on the brown Canadian Z57, painted a matching brown, spring loaded with no latch and it flips down for access to the exhaust port.
Dave
I'm with you here, Charles. "Some of them may have been mixed-and-matched in resale vac shops, or purchased later as after-market items."
"never seen the chromeplated winder with the lettering in relief. I'd say you have something a bit rare there." Well dang, I'll keep that one on the freshly Spa-d birthday LuX, then. Even though it probably dates to the time of the blue reels and mid to late LXs...
Another variation between the two manufacturers...the knurled nut on the Type T from Vacuum Cleaner Corp, Phila. has straight grooves. The Benjamin Reel has a diamond pattern knurl. It's a snap to swap out the short cord to XXX or LX or whatever model end receptor - under that small silver 'bike bell' housing are twist connectors to the ring contact leads inside the Cordwinder shell. It's equally easy to mix, switch and match the parts - such as shell halves - between both makes, as anyone who has opened their cordreel to rehab the spring recoil or replace a split cord well knows. I guess the authenticity rule of thumb is to mate cordwinders dictated by plug end to appropriate era model machines and put the best one on the most deserving machine within that group.
Got one XXX with a chrome Electrolux reel. Will be keeping my eyes peeled for a reel with Cordomatic stamped across it for the other XXXs. My LXI flip-open has the stand-up rim as does my AE which has the chrome ring around the shell seam.
Last bit of Cord Winder trivia...This same AE style winder is used on the brown Canadian Z57, painted a matching brown, spring loaded with no latch and it flips down for access to the exhaust port.
Dave
aeoliandave
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Began putting LeX Luther back together this afternoon.
Fot that shall be his name...
This version #1 ejector system (no dial) of the LX is the first one I've opened up that has the 'airframe' green underpaint. all the rubber is in great supple shape. The only place you will find fine dust collected is the lower left mid size well under the rubber diaphram. The hose from the nozzle bleed leads to this well. Dust can pass no further through the pneumatic system. The black component that seats on this well could be termed a 'slave' valve. Connected internally to the large well, it causes the large diaphram to slowly collapse as bag airflow decreases, eventually causing the catch pin to withdraw from the bag ejector trip lever. Residual chamber suction holds the bag in place a few seconds after the door flips down, as the motor winds down.
Fot that shall be his name...
This version #1 ejector system (no dial) of the LX is the first one I've opened up that has the 'airframe' green underpaint. all the rubber is in great supple shape. The only place you will find fine dust collected is the lower left mid size well under the rubber diaphram. The hose from the nozzle bleed leads to this well. Dust can pass no further through the pneumatic system. The black component that seats on this well could be termed a 'slave' valve. Connected internally to the large well, it causes the large diaphram to slowly collapse as bag airflow decreases, eventually causing the catch pin to withdraw from the bag ejector trip lever. Residual chamber suction holds the bag in place a few seconds after the door flips down, as the motor winds down.
aeoliandave
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Components installed
There is no part for the small cast well. Something else may have been envisoned and rejected by engineering.
There is no part for the small cast well. Something else may have been envisoned and rejected by engineering.
aeoliandave
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The haunting beauty of the LX bag cage.
Takeing progress photos for my own files I was struck by this flashless image.
From the bottom through the ejector slide opening...
Takeing progress photos for my own files I was struck by this flashless image.
From the bottom through the ejector slide opening...
aeoliandave
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Top side. less roboticly menacing.
aeoliandave
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Now for somethings completely different.
Having snowblowed 3 times on Saturday while the storm raged I only had to snowblow once this morning since the sun has shone all day.
Estimate the sidewalls to be almost 3 feet accumulation since last midweek.
Having snowblowed 3 times on Saturday while the storm raged I only had to snowblow once this morning since the sun has shone all day.
Estimate the sidewalls to be almost 3 feet accumulation since last midweek.
aeoliandave
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2nd different thing.
It had to happen sometime. I'd made sure of the stabilty of the unit when I put it up - it's bolted to two wall studs up top.
Was typing away and heard an odd clanging noise and a squeak. Turned around to see this! Fearless Felix let his curiosity get the better of his common sense and made it all the way up those wire shelves. That had to hurt those little furry feets. He couldn't figure out how to get down...or how to get to the final Connie shelf above- that could have been a disasterous avalanche of bouncing Hoovers. Not so LOL! It's also much higher in the air than a screen door frame so he wouldn't jump to the floor. There's no comfortable place to lounge what with open wire shelves so he sat up there whimpering for help. As I came up close he leapt into my arms purring.
Damn, he's a cutie. The Gawds and Hector only know what he gets up to when I'm not around. Or perhaps he only does this extreme sport kinda stuff when I'm around to be entertained. LOL.
It had to happen sometime. I'd made sure of the stabilty of the unit when I put it up - it's bolted to two wall studs up top.
Was typing away and heard an odd clanging noise and a squeak. Turned around to see this! Fearless Felix let his curiosity get the better of his common sense and made it all the way up those wire shelves. That had to hurt those little furry feets. He couldn't figure out how to get down...or how to get to the final Connie shelf above- that could have been a disasterous avalanche of bouncing Hoovers. Not so LOL! It's also much higher in the air than a screen door frame so he wouldn't jump to the floor. There's no comfortable place to lounge what with open wire shelves so he sat up there whimpering for help. As I came up close he leapt into my arms purring.
Damn, he's a cutie. The Gawds and Hector only know what he gets up to when I'm not around. Or perhaps he only does this extreme sport kinda stuff when I'm around to be entertained. LOL.
