A couple of 78 rpm phonographs

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aeoliandave

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I've been snatching up 78's from Goodwill, Sally Ann and other thrift stores for years and finally got around to getting something decent to play them on besides a 1970's 4-speed changer.
With space at a premium I figured I should have an Victor Orthophonic and an Edison Diamond Disk, since reproducer needle orientation is different for each. Needle grooves are read side-to-side (horizontal) as wss common throughout the industry. But Edison swam against the tide and made his phonograph to read the groove up & down (vertical).
Diamond Disk lives in one corner of the room while the Orthophonic resides in the opposite corner sharing space with a compact electric GE Radio Phono cabinet. The GE gem has a two.blade automatic changer for 10" and 12" 78rpm platters. This form of changer fell out of favor when WW2 economies had records manufactured in thin sandwich layers on a Cardboard base instead of the previous solid lacquer disk. This changed the edge shape of records. The Two-blade changer would split the wartime records which is why many Big Band Era recordings have been destroyed unless you had one of the later style changers.

After a thorough refurbishment and only playing solid lacquer disks, the two-blade changer works smoothly and will stack up to 12 platters for a continuous 45 minutes of audio pleasure.

Because the phonograph slides out from it's chamber and the Radio flips out, the flat top makes for a handsome side table for things like period table lamps.

AM radio strongly pulls in about 10 stations in my rural neighborhood and the tube electronics & speaker make them sound ever so good that AM is tolerable. Also has a switch for bass boost and treble.

The Orthophonic and Diamond disc are of course purely acoustic amplification.
The Orthophonic was a sensation in its day because it has an exponential horn coiled within itself, the equivalent of a 10 foot horn.
Orthophonic speakers were very popular in movie theatres when Victor electrified their Orthophonic Horn with a transducer diaphragm placed in the throat of the horn, for, at the time (say 1926) astounding sound reproduction.
Cabinet Orthophonics for the home also came in richly decorated leather paneled and the electric version was the top of the line for the most discerning homes.
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The history of 78 RPM recordings
a brief guide to aid in cataloging
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Any flat disc record, made between about 1898 and the late 1950s and playing at a speed around 78 revolutions per minute is called a "78" by collectors. The materials of which discs were made and with which they were coated were also various; shellac eventually became the commonest material. Generally 78s are made of a brittle material which uses a shellac resin (thus their other name is shellac records). During and after World War II when shellac supplies were extremely limited, some 78 rpm records were pressed in vinyl instead of shellac (wax), particularly the six-minute 12" 78 rpm records produced by V-Disc for distribution to US troops in World War II.

78s come in a variety of sizes, the most common being 10 inch (25 cm) and 12 inch (30 cm) diameter, and these were originally sold in either paper or card covers, generally with a circular cutout allowing the record label to be seen. Since most 78 rpm discs were issued in paper sleeves with no additional accompanying materials, relatively limited information is provided by the items themselves.

Earliest speeds of rotation varied widely, but by 1910 most records were recorded at about 78 to 80 rpm. In 1925, 78.26 rpm was chosen as a standard for motorized phonographs, because it was suitable for most existing records, and was easily achieved using a standard 3600-rpm motor and 46-tooth gear (78.26 = 3600/46). Thus these records became known as 78s (or "seventy-eights"). This term did not come into use until after World War II when a need developed to distinguish the 78 from other newer disc record formats. Earlier they were just called records, or when there was a need to distinguish them from cylinders, disc records.

The durations of 78 RPM recordings is about three to five minutes per side, depending on the disc size:
12": ca. four to five minutes
10": ca. three minutes

As late as the 1970s, some children's records were released at the 78 rpm speed.

The older 78 format continued to be mass produced alongside the newer formats into the 1950s, but had faded from the scene by 1955.

Recording techniques

Before 1925, all 78s were recorded by means of the artist singing or speaking into a horn, the power of their voice directly vibrating the recording stylus and thus cutting the wax of the master disc. Collectors call these discs "acoustic" recordings.

The acoustical era: 1877–1925

The earliest methods of sound recording are described as "acoustical" and employ only mechanical means for both recording and playback. The sounds to be preserved are directed into a large horn, which at its tapered end is connected to a cutting stylus. In response to the vibrations of air in the horn, the stylus cuts a spiral groove in the thick wax coating of a cylinder or disc, rotated steadily by means of a crank. The cutting process creates variations in the groove analogous to the varying frequency and amplitude of the vibrations; the stylus moves up and down in "hill-and-dale" or "vertical cut" recording and from side to side in "lateral cut" recording.

Acoustical recording never yielded high fidelity, its dynamic range was limited.

[By the 1910s] flat discs were the predominant medium for sound recording.

Edison's Diamond Discs were available 1910 in 7, 10, 12, 14, 16, and 21 inch formats. They were played at around 78 rpm and contained up to 8 minutes of sound. The disc was made of an early plastic known as Amberol, which "gave it little surface noise and superb clarity, [but] was incompatible with any other system. It employed a vertical, rather than lateral cut, groove and could not be played on any other machine."

Recording and playing speeds ranged from 72 to 86 rpm before the standard settled at 78 (though Columbia, for example, issued 80 rpm discs for some time after 1920).

The electrical era: 1925–47

Electrical recording was first used in 1925. After about 1925, 78s were recorded by the artist singing or speaking into a microphone and amplifier which then cut the master record. This allowed a wider range of sound to be recorded. Records recorded by this process are called "electrical" recordings. Collectors can identify these discs by either by listening or by means of small marks in the record surface close to the label.

The first electrical recording was issued in 1925.

By around 1920 lateral cut recording was the norm; a less exacting technique than vertical cut, it produced a level of fidelity adequate to the standard of the equipment the general public could afford to buy.

The physical format of electrical recordings remained the same as that of the many acoustical ones utilizing the lateral cut technique.

The term "electrical recording" is normally used in contradistinction to "acoustical recording" (in the preceding era) and "magnetic tape recording" and "microgroove recording" (in the succeeding era) the term "electrical recording" is not customarily used after the introduction of magnetic tape in 1947.

In electrical recording the sounds to be preserved are gathered by a transducer (a microphone) and the vibrations converted into an analogously varying electrical signal, which is amplified and applied to another transducer (a stylus), which cuts a spiral groove in a waxed or (later) lacquered disc.


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What about 45s and LPs?

I play 45s on this sweet little 1951 changer. RCA initially made this Bakelite accessory for direct connection to any of their radios with a phono input. The first were output only, the radio amp providing the signal boost power.
Mine is the later version with a built in tube amp & speaker for portability.

The red bakelite no-name is also a self-contained portable with the addition of all 4 speeds. 4 month old new kitty Buster makes a cameo appearance. :-)

For Vinyl LPs, and who doesn't snatch up any Liberace LP from the discount bin, I have a first generation Technics SL-5 direct drive, parallel tracking clamshell turntable that could also be mounted vertically on a wall.

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AM broadcast----Did you know many AM transmitters are flat +- 3 Db from 50Hz to 15Khz?The phasors and ATU's have components in them to preserve the bandwidth.Now AM stations run under NRSC standards-the response was cut to 10Khz to reduce co-channel interference.Early AM sets have wide bandwidth so the true quality that is in AM can be heard.Most radios are only flat from 100Hz to 3Khz so much of what is broadcast is LOST on the listner end.TRF receivers and receivers made by McKay Dymec are amazing--have somebody listen to a good AM broadcast and they think their listening to FM!The McKay receivers were common in radio stations to check their and other stations quality.I have perked up mnay old transmitters by replacing tubes and coupler caps in their modulator stages just as in Hi-Fi amps.
Acustic recordings--these have been played back with modern cartridges(Shure made a magnetic cartridge for these)and the quality again was amzing--sometimes even better than electronic recordings.There was an article about this in Audio magazine back in the 70's or 80's.Wished I saved it!
Another good thing about those RCA 45 TT's is that you can connect them to just about any other audio system for better quality.I have one of those RCA players that has the built in amp and speaker I found at a yard sale-the little thing works well-I have a huge box of 60's,early 70's 45's I got from a radio station.Good listening!.
For lower cost broadband AM listening-get a GE SuperRadio-these are wide bandwidth and portable.Used mine for station evaluation.Radio Shack built anice TRF AM receiver in the 70's-another good portable radio.Both the GE and Radio Shack were powered by batteries or AC line.
 

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