Dyson upright differences

[eluxca]

For the Dyson experts out there, are there major cleaning and usability differences between the DC14 and DC17? I have looked at both and noticed that the brush roll on the DC17 is noticeably stiffer than the DC14, so that model concerns me in terms of damaging carpet.

There is a brand new DC14 Complete for sale in town for $289 in a nice color scheme of charcoal and deep red. It peaked my curiosity, not that I really NEED another vacuum....

John

 

[vintagehoover]

DC17:

the DC17 was the first vacuum cleaner Dyson designed specifically for the North American market, and addressed some of the concerns the US had encountered with the previous DC07 and DC14.

The brush-roll has incredibly stiff bristles, and is powered by its own motor. The bristle spacing was altered to make the brush better-suited to thicker American carpeting.

It has the distinction of being the only Dyson upright so far to utilise the 3-stage 'Root Cyclone + Core Separator' technology; the most efficient of any multi-cyclonic system on the market.

It's hard to make a recommendation of this model, because I haven't personally used one for any length of time. Of the people I know who have used them, I've heard mixed reports: some people love the brush-roll, others feel it pulls out more carpet-fluff than they're comfortable with!

 

[kirbyultimateg]

What about the Dyson DC28 upright?

 

[vintagehoover]

DC14:

Internet explorer just crashed half-way through what I was writing about the DC14, but luckily I took a screen-grab of it before it vanished!

Continuing from what I wrote below...in addition to the clutch problem, America also seems to feel that the brush-roll in the clutch control models is ineffective on thick carpeting. In Europe, we got round this by buying the Origin models, equipped with a round brush with 3 rows of bristles, which I personally feel is much more effective. However, the US doesn't have this model. This is why Dyson introduced the DC17's brush, which can be over-aggressive on some carpeting!

To sum up, the DC14 is a nice, user-friendly machine, and one of my favourite Dyson models, but perhaps not well-suited to the US market.

 

[kirbyultimateg]

What is the difference between the Dyson DC17 and the Dyson DC28?
Thanks.

 

[vintagehoover]

Pic of my DC14 Origin:

 

[vintagehoover]

So, John - those are the facts, the rest is up to you! Is there anywhere you'd be able to try out both models before making your decision?

Rather than either the DC14 OR the DC17, I'd actually suggest that the DC25 is a superior machine to either! If I could have just one Dyson to use for the rest of my life (ignoring what wonderous technology they might come up with tomorrow!!), I wouldn't hesitate to go for the DC25. It's Dyson's flagship machine, accounting for 50% of all Dyson sales in the UK - and they look forward to the day when they can phase out wheeled cleaners entirely!

 

[vintagehoover]

Hi Rob - here's a video which explains the DC28 Airmuscle better than I could!

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[kirbyultimateg]

Thank you Jack!

 

[joe22]

like the look of the dc14, even the walmart has the dc25 now. compaired to my fave the royal metal upright they seem over complicated.

yet i do want some for my collection, the canisters interest me the most.

joe

 

[vintagehoover]

Joe - I'm sure a Royal is a wonderful cleaner (I don't own one myself, I think I've seen them come up on eBay in the UK twice in six years!), but it's essentially employing 1908 J M Spangler technology.

While that's still a very sound method of cleaning carpets, we now live in the age of AutoCAD and Selective Laser Sintering (SLS)! We can afford to get a little more complicated without it necessarily being a negative thing.

Look at this machine that Kirby *may* be coming out with in the near future; all those belts and gears - it certainly looks complicated, but knowing Kirby, it will be tested up to the hilt before it's made available to the public. They have too much at stake to launch a reliability-nightmare! And I'm told Dyson come second only to Kirby in CR's latest reliability survey?

 

[eluxca]

Thanks Jack

For sharing your knowledge of the Dysons! "Aggressive" brushroll is right, the bristles feel like wires on the DC17. You are not the first person to say that the DC25 is the best machine in the lineup. My bias is that it looks rather insubstantial next to the 14 and 17. I guess looks can be deceiving

John

 

[vintagehoover]

The DC25 is tested as rigorously as any of the other Dysons, and guaranteed for 5 years.

I just think they got the brush-roll perfect in that model: no clutch, so no belts to wear out...round, so it doesn't wrap up with hair and lint...the bristles aren't too soft or too stiff...powered by a dedicated motor, so you can turn it off for hard floors or delicate rugs...a cogged belt which won't stretch, slip or break...central intake duct, so suction is even across the width of the nozzle...

 

[shanonabc]

Love the clutch on my DC14 Origin Jack...

Remember I mentioned the AU Origin machines are clutched...

 

[vintagehoover]

Hi Shanon...yes, I recall our conversation about the Origin models - it was only a few days ago. I'm not that old!

 

[shanonabc]

Just because you remember doesn't mean I do!

 

[joe22]

yes in the october 2009 issue dyson was second to kirby. look at how many kirby's from the 50s are still around and cleaning (ebay/craigs list for a reference)

dyson has not really improved on the 1908 technology, a brush spins to sweep the carpet and a fan sucks up the dirt.

sure there were a few tweaks along the way such as carpet height adjustment. making something more complicated is not necessarily better.

just a few thoughts, not criticisms. halftimes over back to coyboys game.

joe

 

[vintagehoover]

'dyson has not really improved on the 1908 technology...

Um, I'd beg to differ on that, Joe! And I never said making something more complicated was better, I just said it wasn't necessarily worse.

 

[eluxca]

Let me throw in another model for consideration...
As you talked about the dc25 being the most desirable machine, how does its predecessor, the dc15, compare? They are still available new and also reconditioned from Dyson, although it is no longer manufactured. Just wondering if the performance and ease of use would be similar.

John