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You saw it here. See that, Ian? Didn't I tell you that these guys would weasel out of telling us what they think a machine is worth. They squirm around every which way. Did anyone say, "Golly, Kyle, I think your man's $180+ value is a bit optimistic."? Nope. Did they say, "Kyle, Mark's $265 is...

Cohiba Not good for you, RB, not good at all.

Thanks, Fred I got it. So, does Kyle know to kneel down and recite mantras in front of his new Compact? I never did that with mine, but my grandsons did get a kick out of a motor removal party once.

Tania. Tania. I looked at the pic - which one was Tania?

Therapy I agree with Tom Robbins that psychotherapy has reached the stage in its development that surgery was at when practiced by barbers. Gee, all that therapy and you still can't spell (smile - just funnin')

$2.00 at a Church Rummage Sale Did you deduct the $2.00?

Rocky Patel Okay, I took Nigel (my cat) out for some air and noticed my Rocky Patel had a second band indicating "Vintage 1992." Kyle, is my cigar older than you? I traded a very nice gold Compact for a couple of turquoise junkers with Byron O'Dowd who owns a vacuum shop here in Omaha. It was a...

Blade Runner Guys, just give me a sec on that Blade Runner reference then we can get back to the bidding. Ian, I appreciate Tyrell's genious, but Roy Batty is my identification. Don't sweat it, though, it may just be a mortality thing at my age. OK guys, I am going to slip out and suck on a...

C'mon, Jeff Gee whiz, Jeff, agreeing with Fred N has to be the safest path in the world. Fred is, like, (I was going to say the Pope but then I remembered about that $650 million settlement in L.A.)- Fred is, like, well, he's the man. So, like, are you going to wimp out, too, and say you just...

Tomorrow. Tomorrow! Yeah, sure, Kyle, you'll show the pics tomorrow. What kind of tradesman blames his tools. Yesterday you said tomorrow. Now today you are saying tomorrow - and just Fred, a new twist. I never liked the twist. Mr. Checker was okay, but the twist. Give me a break. That's not...

Gosh, look at the time. Oh my. Look at the time. Ian is probably asleep. Just when it is gettin' good. Dang it.

Don't you dare! Don't do it, Mr. Nelson. Don't call that slicker off thread and talk secret stuff. We're trying to get at the truth here. We're trying to share. To communicate. Don't let him diss us. (Did I dpell diss right?) This is important. This could be critical Right, Ian?

Okay, now the pics Okay, Kyle, I will respect (at least for now), your decision to keep your appraiser some kind of State secret, but, where are the pictures? Scroll up and see the lame excuse you made for a tease without pics. Fred needs the pics. I need the pics. Ian, that crazy Brit (smile)...

Yikes, Mr. Nelson I agree with everything you said and defer mucho to your experience but still think you are sandbagging. Your suggestions that the market is small and that anomalous things happen don't prevent you from having an opinion of the value of a cleaner. Such things are factors. You...

Sandbaggers v. Junior Slicker Kyle, you are not sharing. You have an estimate and you are not sharing. This isn't ebay. This is a collector's club. You said you had an estimate, so share, pal. What was it? Who gave you the estimate? You started this and I carried your water for awhile. Now it's...

Cars! There ya go, Ian, hi-jacking the thread. Weren't we talking about vacs (smile).

..and while I am on a roll ..but I need to blow this popstand shortly.. Brett, I didn't take what Kyle (or anyone posting) said as a seller setting a price according to a buyer's estimate. A buyer's estimate is just data - kind a like smorgasboard, some stuff you bite on and some you pass...

Sandbagged Brett - how about: "To downplay or misrepresent one's ability in a game or activity in order to deceive" - ...the only qualifier I might make in this context is that I am not accusing y'all of deceiving, just downplaying your knowlege (smile)

Precision Ian, straighten up. This isn't simple like rocket science. There is no precision here. This is good old fashioned "educated prognostication" - sometimes referred to as a darn good guess - or, in cultured circles, an educated guess. That's all we want here - an educated guess.

then there is the Dauphine Some like the Renault Dauphine but I think the Dauphine is pretentious.