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That is just a bunch of vague subjective anecdotes. (sarcasm) :ROFLMAO: Edit: In all seriousness your statement is the answer as you say.

That might just be a EU thing. I don't know if its a thing in the USA; and if it is here, chances are that stuff is just going to the same final destination as if the consumer sent it to the landfill.

I think his point is that most/many bagged units will outlast the bagless ones by years if not in orders of magnitude, thereby staying out of the landfills, and being replaced altogether.

I believe that many of the bags are made of recycled plastic bottles. While that doesn’t completely eliminate the concern, it makes their environmental impact much reduced.

That thing looks like a hot rod. I just watched a video on that make a few days back. Welcome to Vacuumland!

This isn’t my experience with pets and bagged machine, but I only have 1 dog. My rough math is one Sebo D4 bag is greater than 56-80 V15 “dumps.” (On week 8, normally weekly V15 cleaning would take 8-10 V15 “dumps,” and I still have room in the first bag) And this isn’t factoring in that I...

I do. It’s extremely quiet and extremely powerful. House is noticeably cleaner with it, dust and dog smell are essentially a thing of the past.

i went thru darn near the same exact debate a few months ago and ended up With a D4. Once I learned I can do both my floors without moving the cord, I felt it was worth the extra $. I wish it had the slider versus the +\-. I don’t turn the standby off, I figure Sebo uses properly rated devices...

Abusive, not real-world, and only the simplest, statistically insignificant vile charlatans would own such a rug.

Well his presentation methods certainly are “interesting” but don’t forget.a lot of what he says is blatantly false (as demonstrated many times by many people here, and on YouTube)

I'm speaking about posting a bunch of equations, charts, scientifically sounding terminology, etc. There is zero doubt in my mind PR is motivated to promote makes and models he and his colleagues sell versus ones they don't.

This I agree with, I also would add PR doesn't try to fool or impress people with "scientific theories." In regards to Dyson machines, IMO that is where he balances out VF, as he flies to the other extreme on the biased propaganda scale. While I experience some of the same issues with Dyson's...

I recently went thru the same debate and ended up with a Sebo. For these reasons: -Dealer proximity: Sebo about 20min away, nearest Miele dealer is ~90min away. Obviously this will be different for you and maybe not a factor at all. -Bag opening/resetting when opening the bin: Mieles you have...

It sure seems like you’re trying to expose yourself. You are flat out claiming things that are different than the materials that you post. The only thing that’s toxic here is you

Yeah, the abstract is available for free and it says enough. -Do you really expect us to believe their abstract (ahem, summary) is going to vary from the contents of the paper? :ROFLMAO: -Do you honestly expect people to pay to go down your rabbit holes, when there is plenty of evidence...

Would hate to see you starve. Much as I had assumed, you can't provide receipts for your claims.

Here is another one that you could clearly "prove me wrong" if I am, but you chose to throw around veiled insults instead, because I would wager that you cannot "prove me wrong:" Where is the paper that you reference? The link is only to the abstract, which is all you provide in the link; the...

@Vacuum Facts Your responses are nothing but strawman arguments. ie the ol' bait and switch tactic here... This was what I was responding to. This claim right here you made below, you know, the one I RESPONDED to: I am disputing THAT claim. You have still posted NOTHING besides your own claims...

Yes you need to say more. I am directly calling you out. Point specifically to what supports your claims. I pointed specifically in each of those links the items that do not support your claims. Until you are willing (and able) to do so, you are promoting falsities. Perhaps by malice, perhaps...

In this particular case I was genuinely curious on the effectiveness of these 'microsponges,' I thought/hoped I could genuinely learn something from his links. I was disappointed.