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Eh, they did what they were advertised to do, were dirt simple, easy to repair and most proved to be durable under hard use by housekeeping and hospitality staff. David Oreck's main customers were old women who could not carry a heavy vacuum around and hospitality and housekeeping staff who had to push a vacuum around for eight hours a day and / or drag it around on their cleaning cart and thus wanted as light a vacuum as possible that still did the job.
I guess the main problem with the commercial (hotel room) ORECKs are that they miss stuff pushed into corners, around furniture and other inaccessible, except with tools, locations. The suction varies, but that may depend upon whether the brush is worn or dirty. The housekeepers seem to change the bags. My latest week "on the road" found several motels with the "has no tools" problem.
 
I guess the main problem with the commercial (hotel room) ORECKs are that they miss stuff pushed into corners, around furniture and other inaccessible, except with tools, locations. The suction varies, but that may depend upon whether the brush is worn or dirty. The housekeepers seem to change the bags. My latest week "on the road" found several motels with the "has no tools" problem.
Motel chains are ditching carpet entirely for vinyl plank flooring. No need for a vacuum. All they carry on their cart now is a broom and dust pan and a mop.
 
I have no interest in listening to vacuum facts lectures. How is cleaning corners all about how vacuums work? I’m not understanding.
The design of a floorhead. In this case, those ORECK machines' head are bulky enough, so they could hardly clean corners at all. Dyson's straight-front heads are much better, and so are most modern brushbars. (The new dual-cones floorhead is an exception because of its shape)
 
The design of a floorhead. In this case, those ORECK machines' head are bulky enough, so they could hardly clean corners at all. Dyson's straight-front heads are much better, and so are most modern brushbars. (The new dual-cones floorhead is an exception because of its shape)
I think orecks do just fine on corners, but you can have your own opinion. I also think Dyson has some of the worst floor heads. Their bristles are rather short and soft. So they don’t have great agitation, which is extremely important when cleaning carpet.
 
The design of a floorhead. In this case, those ORECK machines' head are bulky enough, so they could hardly clean corners at all. Dyson's straight-front heads are much better, and so are most modern brushbars. (The new dual-cones floorhead is an exception because of its shape)

That depends. In California where I live a lot of these modern plastic brush rolls either warp, making the vacuum or the power nozzle shake like an old Harley Davidson, or melt from overheating if they are used more than an hour on American style carpets. Even with the AC blasting. And it is not just Dyson or Shark having this problem but Miele ( $95 for the OEM Miele SEB236 brush roll and you can kill it in an hour of hard use ) and several other brands with plastic brush rolls experience this same failure. If you look at vacuums sold in the US for commercial use their brush rolls are generally made from wood or are steel with bristle strips inserted into slots in the brush roll. Steel bearings and steel end caps too. That is what it takes to hold up on American carpets in American homes where you will often need to run the vacuum a couple of hours straight to do your cleaning. In our own home a quick clean, just the main living areas, but no bedrooms takes an hour and a half. Throw in the bedrooms and you are talking half a day just vacuuming floors.
 
Print that out and tape it to your mirror, and then look in it.
Some people that have graced my channel simply can't be helped: they're just not open to reason and are either contrarian, obstinate, or trolls. This was a general factual statement. This is in contrast to your response that followed, which is clearly a personally directed insult.
 
That depends. In California where I live a lot of these modern plastic brush rolls either warp, making the vacuum or the power nozzle shake like an old Harley Davidson, or melt from overheating if they are used more than an hour on American style carpets. Even with the AC blasting. And it is not just Dyson or Shark having this problem but Miele ( $95 for the OEM Miele SEB236 brush roll and you can kill it in an hour of hard use ) and several other brands with plastic brush rolls experience this same failure. If you look at vacuums sold in the US for commercial use their brush rolls are generally made from wood or are steel with bristle strips inserted into slots in the brush roll. Steel bearings and steel end caps too. That is what it takes to hold up on American carpets in American homes where you will often need to run the vacuum a couple of hours straight to do your cleaning. In our own home a quick clean, just the main living areas, but no bedrooms takes an hour and a half. Throw in the bedrooms and you are talking half a day just vacuuming floors.
Glad that I’m making the move to wooden brushrolls on my Hoovers.
 
Glad that I’m making the move to wooden brushrolls on my Hoovers.
The Hoover Hushtone went back to very Windtunnel looking wooden brush rolls after the problems they had with melt-o-matic plastic parts on the previous Insight series. The Hushtone's plastics are better than the brittle stuff on the Insight too. I have both models in both sizes they were made in.
 
The Hoover Hushtone went back to very Windtunnel looking wooden brush rolls after the problems they had with melt-o-matic plastic parts on the previous Insight series. The Hushtone's plastics are better than the brittle stuff on the Insight too. I have both models in both sizes they were made in.
Are they the same ones used in the Anniversary series and do they fit the Windtunnels?
 
Are they the same ones used in the Anniversary series and do they fit the Windtunnels?
Not the same part but made the same way. There are two nozzle widths, 13 and 15 inches so I don't think either Hushtone brush roll fits any Windtunnel but I haven't tried and don't have any Windtunnels to check. Just noting that Hoover went back to an older and more durable style of brushroll for the Hushtone series. I have never been a big fan of Hoovers or uprights in general but I'm thoroughly impressed with my Hushtone.
 
The Hoover Hushtone went back to very Windtunnel looking wooden brush rolls after the problems they had with melt-o-matic plastic parts on the previous Insight series. The Hushtone's plastics are better than the brittle stuff on the Insight too. I have both models in both sizes they were made in.
It's funny you have to buy quasi-commercial model vacuums now just to get the right build quality. lol
 
I think the Hushtone is the best upright vacuum Hoover ever made. It was Vacuum Wars' test that piqued my interest in them.
Is it? I just bought one at Goodwill, not sure which one it is, they didnt show the model tag either. Randomly ran across it and it was a good deal. I also just got the backpack too for 10 bucks shipped, but its missing everything. Will be a project. These must have just started depreciating, as I had never seen them at my price limits before until now.
 
Is it? I just bought one at Goodwill, not sure which one it is, they didnt show the model tag either. Randomly ran across it and it was a good deal. I also just got the backpack too for 10 bucks shipped, but its missing everything. Will be a project. These must have just started depreciating, as I had never seen them at my price limits before until now.
So here is a tip. The only bags Hoover sells specifically for the Hushtone are paper. I use a genuine Hoover Style Y synthetic HEPA dust bag but you have to cut the mounting card down a smidge to fit the Hushtone bag mount. The bag is a little bit large for the Hushtone bag chamber but tucks in ok. They keep the inside of the vacuum nice and clean. I've been bugging a couple of companies to make a synthetic bag for the Hushtone but nothing has materialized yet.
 
So here is a tip. The only bags Hoover sells specifically for the Hushtone are paper. I use a genuine Hoover Style Y synthetic HEPA dust bag but you have to cut the mounting card down a smidge to fit the Hushtone bag mount. The bag is a little bit large for the Hushtone bag chamber but tucks in ok. They keep the inside of the vacuum nice and clean. I've been bugging a couple of companies to make a synthetic bag for the Hushtone but nothing has materialized yet.
I will try that. Very strange they did not develop HEPA bags.
 

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